Black lives matter... except when they don't?

[illram]

Why is there zero media outrage about this? I thought black lives mattered? I understand that killing babies is legal under particular circumstances but so what?

You answered your own question. We'll just ignore the "killing babies" terminology to keep things simple here.

The real question is the "so what?" part you added. Therein lies the answer to your mystery.

 

[mrt144]

I bet civvver was expecting people to high five him for this.

 

[Leonel]

Pity high-five!

Although it's highly arguable that zygotes and embryos are 'babies'. Also what happens in the event of a ectopic pregnancy?! I doubt the fallopian tube is elastic and strong enough to bare a pregnancy.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Pity high-five!

Although it's highly arguable that zygotes and embryos are 'babies'. Also what happens in the event of a ectopic pregnancy?! I doubt the fallopian tube is elastic and strong enough to bare a pregnancy.

I was able to argue Domination3000 into acknowledging that women shouldn't be executed if they abort an ectopic pregnancy (since continuing it would kill both the mother and the fetus), so if there's still anyone here who disagrees with that, all I can say is... wow.

 

[mrt144]

Also, the rhetoric of caring about fetuses because life is so important while simultaneously fighting against ANY government measure that might somehow help people in financially dire situations care for that life...

I would rather have whatever amount of abortions results in zero population growth than one unwanted baby living in a society that is seemingly idealized by Republicans. Kneecapping poor people with moral and economic imperatives makes you as bad person.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I always try to remind these "fairness to feti" people that the person they are dumping on was a fetus once themselves. I figure they might conduct themselves with a little conscience if you remind them that it is not a person, but a former fetus.

 

[Cutlass]

White Man's Burden strikes again.

 

[Hygro]

I always try to remind these "fairness to feti" people that the person they are dumping on was a fetus once themselves. I figure they might conduct themselves with a little conscience if you remind them that it is not a person, but a former fetus.

ewwwwww

 

[Kaitzilla]

This thread is now about former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley being booed by Democrats for saying "All Lives Matter".


Link to video.

Hoping to keep his presidential run alive, he later apologized for saying "All lives matter".
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/martin-omalley-all-lives-matter/

BTW, I'd rather have a Lambo.

Link to video.

Eh, the "I want a Lamborghini" (8:00) comment seemed like a joke. All giggly and stuff.
Like, I want a million bajillion dollars.

I'm just amazed people can talk about dead baby parts over dinner.

(4:40) made me a little bit squeamish.
Changing care slightly to be get more-intact fetuses? ick!

They get a fair amount of federal funding, but it can't be used directly for abortions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood




It's interesting to watch Texas use law-fu to try and get its abortion clinics down to the single digits with efforts to make them more "safe".
The supreme court blocked the latest effort with a 5-4 vote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/30/u...xas-abortion-clinics-to-remain-open.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday allowed 10 Texas abortion clinics to remain open while the justices consider whether to hear an appeal from a decision effectively ordering them to close.

The vote was 5 to 4, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel A. Alito Jr. voting to deny the stay.

The case concerns two parts of a state law that imposes strict requirements on abortion providers. One requires all abortion clinics in the state to meet the standards for “ambulatory surgical centers,” including regulations concerning buildings, equipment and staffing. The other requires doctors performing abortions to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.

Other parts of the law took effect in 2013, causing about half of the state’s 41 abortion clinics to close. If the contested provisions take effect, abortion rights advocates said, the number of clinics will again be halved.

The remaining clinics, lawyers for abortion providers said, would be clustered in four metropolitan areas: Austin, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston and San Antonio. “There would be no licensed abortion facilities west of San Antonio,” the providers’ brief said, “and the only abortion clinic south of San Antonio would have a highly restricted capacity.”

 

[Kaitzilla]

Actually, now that I look around, there's lots of stories out there.

Sandra Bland got pulled over for failing to use a turn signal.
She was dead 3 days later.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/20/us/sandra-bland-arrest-death-videos-maps.html


Shamefully, it is not nearly as sad as the story of 16 year old Kalief Browder.
He did 3 years on Riker's Island (jail) waiting for a trial! (That never arrived)
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/before-the-law

After all the beatings, solitary confinement, prison guard beatings, suicide attempts, etc. etc., his accuser fled the country.
Then he gets out, gets a job, gets fired once his employer finds out about his damaged mental health history.

Missed half of high school telling people they got the wrong guy, refused to plead guilty to a felony and get out for the time he already served, all with a predictable end after unending trauma.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/n...or-3-years-without-trial-commits-suicide.html

One of the Supreme Court members argued against solitary confinement recently citing this case.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...inement_justice_anthony_kennedy_finds_it.html


He thinks 23 hours a day in a coffin for 1000's of days in a row is cruel and unusual punishment.
Liberals

 

[Borachio]

Look, if you don't want to spend time in prison make sure of two things: 1) you don't break the law in any way; and 2) you're not black.

I don't think things could be any simpler.

 

[Formaldehyde]

This thread is now about former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley being booed by Democrats for saying "All Lives Matter".

How would you know that the handful of people who booed were Democrats?

Hoping to keep his presidential run alive, he later apologized for saying "All lives matter".

Um, that's not what your source states:

Later that day, O'Malley apologized for using the phrase in that context if it was perceived that he was minimizing the importance of blacks killed by police.

"I meant no disrespect," O'Malley said in an interview on This Week in Blackness, a digital show. "That was a mistake on my part and I meant no disrespect. I did not mean to be insensitive in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us should be attaching to this issue."

Judith Butler, a philosopher at the University of California, Berkeley, recently explained why some find it offensive to respond to the "Black Lives Matter" movement with the "all lives matter."

"When some people rejoin with 'All Lives Matter' they misunderstand the problem, but not because their message is untrue. It is true that all lives matter, but it is equally true that not all lives are understood to matter, which is precisely why it is most important to name the lives that have not mattered, and are struggling to matter in the way they deserve," Butler said in an interview with The New York Times. "If we jump too quickly to the universal formulation, 'all lives matter,' then we miss the fact that black people have not yet been included in the idea of 'all lives.'"

O'Malley isn't the first Democrat to come under fire for the remark. Hillary Clinton was criticized in June for doing the same thing.