Brazil discussion thread

So, is Brazil actually reknowned for generating great works art, music, and literature? I mean, relative to other nations or cultures?

They're well-known for tourism, but more in the context of partying down than attending opera and museums.

Brazil have a very unique culture and a vast one too. Its probably one of the only countries where the top sellers musicians are local and not americans. The problem with Brazil is the language, few people understands portuguese.

Of course, Brazil is not a powerhouse of culture like France and USA, but brazilians artists like Tom Jobim, Oscar Niemeyer and Portinari are very well know world wide.
 
Wow I never expected them to make Rio the capital.
Since when do we have historically acurate capitals in Civ games?
Why make Rio the capital, but also make Bijing a capital?
 
Wow I never expected them to make Rio the capital.
Since when do we have historically acurate capitals in Civ games?
Why make Rio the capital, but also make Bijing a capital?

Remember that Egypt has Thebes as capital, and Japan has Kyoto, so it's not clear cut modern capital always. Brazil just joined them in this regard. ;)
It really begs the question, though, what is their reasoning when choosing a capital? There doesn't seem to be a standard...
 
We still haven't seen a Trading Post tile improvement in any screenshot, so the Brazilwood Camp looks pretty good if the TC has been removed or limited. If not, it might be hard to pick between culture and that sweet, sweet science.

Also, if Brazil picks Sacred Path Pantheon, the Jungles will be making 2 culture per tile with the Brazilwood Camp.

But again, nor have we seen lumber mills or regular mines. Not sure if they are doing it just for "pretty looking" screenshots, but I'm really getting curious why these improvements are being purposely ignored.
 
So, is Brazil actually reknowned for generating great works art, music, and literature? I mean, relative to other nations or cultures?

They're well-known for tourism, but more in the context of partying down than attending opera and museums.

Haha, yeah. Brazil doesn't really generate the types of culture where people dress up to visit. They generate the type of culture where people wear little or nothing at all.
 
Demorei pra entender, mais o "Brazilian Woodhouse" faz referência à exploração da madeira de Pau-Brasil. Essa exploração é mais históricamente importante para o Brasil do q nossa UU. Mas não me lembro de nenhuma construção feita para isso, muito menos como isso daria cultura... Além, é claro ter os mesmos problemas dos Bandeirantes: são do período colonial e trabalhavam para os portugueses. Mesmo assim, é melhor do q se contentar só com mods... I'm too lazy to translate on google translator...

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Brazil have a very unique culture and a vast one too. Its probably one of the only countries where the top sellers musicians are local and not americans. The problem with Brazil is the language, few people understands portuguese.

Of course, Brazil is not a powerhouse of culture like France and USA, but brazilians artists like Tom Jobim, Oscar Niemeyer and Portinari are very well know world wide.

Haha, yeah. Brazil doesn't really generate the types of culture where people dress up to visit. They generate the type of culture where people wear little or nothing at all.
Well, pretty much every civilization can claim to have its own culture. I mean, a civ basically *is* a culture.

Just seems a shame to grant this to Brazil, as it was essentially the ability I suggested for Italy.
 
Demorei pra entender, mais o "Brazilian Woodhouse" faz referência à exploração da madeira de Pau-Brasil. Essa exploração é mais históricamente importante para o Brasil do q nossa UU. Mas não me lembro de nenhuma construção feita para isso, muito menos como isso daria cultura... Além, é claro ter os mesmos problemas dos Bandeirantes: são do período colonial e trabalhavam para os portugueses. Mesmo assim, é melhor do q se contentar só com mods...
I'm too lazy to translate on google translator...

Tsk, tsk, tsk... ;)

"It took me a while to get it, but the Brazilian Woodhouse is a reference to the exploration of the wood of Pau-Brasil. It is more historically important for Brazil than our UU, but I don't remember any construction made for it, much less how it would give culture... Besides, it is obvious it has the same problems as the Bandeirantes: they are from the colonial period and worked for the Portuguese. Even so, it's better than having to do with just mods..." he said - hopefully my translation was clear! :)
 
Demorei pra entender, mais o "Brazilian Woodhouse" faz referência à exploração da madeira de Pau-Brasil. Essa exploração é mais históricamente importante para o Brasil do q nossa UU. Mas não me lembro de nenhuma construção feita para isso, muito menos como isso daria cultura... Além, é claro ter os mesmos problemas dos Bandeirantes: são do período colonial e trabalhavam para os portugueses. Mesmo assim, é melhor do q se contentar só com mods... I'm too lazy to translate on google translator...

It's actually called "Brazilwood camp" (which could be translated as "campo de exploração de pau-brasil" or something).

In the end, Brazilian uniques are not that unique (historically speaking), other than being Brazilian, which is a bit disappointing.
 
I don't know when the Brazilwood Camp is unlocked, but I'm guessing it goes with Plantations or Camps, which are Ancient era. That's a full two eras before Trading Posts are available as it stands currently. The ability for Brazil to build something like a Trading Post that early is a pretty big deal, especially when river and sea gold are gone.
 
I assumed the reason why the Brazilwood Camp gives culture starting at Acoustics is because Brazilwood was used to construct instruments, like violins.
 
Tsk, tsk, tsk... ;)

"It took me a while to get it, but the Brazilian Woodhouse is a reference to the exploration of the wood of Pau-Brasil. It is more historically important for Brazil than our UU, but I don't remember any construction made for it, much less how it would give culture... Besides, it is obvious it has the same problems as the Bandeirantes: they are from the colonial period and worked for the Portuguese. Even so, it's better than having to do with just mods..." he said - hopefully my translation was clear! :)

Thank you, JSMCAG!
 
Tsk, tsk, tsk... ;)

"It took me a while to get it, but the Brazilian Woodhouse is a reference to the exploration of the wood of Pau-Brasil. It is more historically important for Brazil than our UU, but I don't remember any construction made for it, much less how it would give culture... Besides, it is obvious it has the same problems as the Bandeirantes: they are from the colonial period and worked for the Portuguese. Even so, it's better than having to do with just mods..." he said - hopefully my translation was clear! :)

I was already three-quarters through the thing before I realised there was an english translation below...
Many thanks nonetheless!
 
Demorei pra entender, mais o "Brazilian Woodhouse" faz referência à exploração da madeira de Pau-Brasil. Essa exploração é mais históricamente importante para o Brasil do q nossa UU. Mas não me lembro de nenhuma construção feita para isso, muito menos como isso daria cultura... Além, é claro ter os mesmos problemas dos Bandeirantes: são do período colonial e trabalhavam para os portugueses. Mesmo assim, é melhor do q se contentar só com mods... I'm too lazy to translate on google translator...

Ok, I translate for you: " I had a hard time understanding that Brazilian wood-house is a reference to pau-brasil extraction. This is actually more historically important for us Brazilians then our UU, but I don't think there was a especial building in those eras for this activity, nor can I understand how it's supposed to produce culture... It shares similar dificulties with Bandeirantes: Its from the colonial period. But it still beter than just play mods."


now my response: The Brazilian wood was a luxury commodity used in furniture, musical instruments, and clothes of the nobility. the actual build was a variation of the Feitoria, a far less fortified then those build in India.

I'm really exited to play that new expansion. here is a beer commercial that I think captures pretty much the feeling of playing a Brazilian civ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRBa7-AspRE
 
I wouldn't say there's only one way to play Brazil. The UU pushes Golden Ages. Golden Ages increase production and culture (among other things). Production builds more UUs. Culture gets you warmongery sopols & tenets. Great Persons start more Golden Ages. I think Brazil could flood the world with Pracinhas and coast to a domination victory.
 
Ok, so we got a colonial UI that yields gold and culture, an imperial Leader whose UA boosts tourism and Great Artist's generation, and a republican UU who fuels that UA.

Gameplay-wise I think I'm in love with it. I'm not used to build early game units or to pursue Domination Victories. That UI, on the other hand, seems to be extremely useful, specially if you still get science from jungle titles. The Carnivals boost Great Artists' generation, and Great Artists can start a Carnival (unless you need to fill some Great Painting slots).

But I have to say I'd never expect the Carnival to be so central (the civ's UA) or the Pracinhas getting in instead the Fatherland Volunteers, Bandeirantes etc. The Brazilwood Camp wouldn't happen even in my dreams; if some people complains that the Bandeirantes were Portuguese, what are they saying about Brazilwood exploration?
 
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