Spoiler T164 : Sacrificing scout to peek abit, he doesn't have much westwards. Of to whipping civics, I pay through the nose for iron again and do a round of whipping. Now I'm getting somewhere. That middle pack is taking up an excellent position, with ability to strike right away at Utica and simultaniously having access to the two spots I have marked with x, threatening both those cities. Someone bribed Toku to declare on Napoleon. Now I feel I have enough cuirs to take this with relatively safety I suffer very heavy losses, alot of bad rolls, but I get Utica and finally have my own iron. After some healing and resupplies I move forward. I brought with me the gallic wariors but then realize I want all xp on the cuirs. When I take this, I see Chicken Itza and remember that he built that. Perhaps thats why I'm getting so horrible odds. I say a prayer that Hadretrum is holding up under the pressure from Nappy and WvO and start to think that it was a mistake having Napoleon join the game. I thought this city would fall right away, but Napoleon takes his time and bombard, and my units that where eyeing Hannibals northern cities are routed here to either snipe the city or to change focus to Napoleon. Hannibal flees into the arms of WvO when Napoleon takes the city.