C2C Balance Thread
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What difficulty level? REV on or off?
Just checked, REV off. Eternity game speed. Difficulty, somewhere easy-ish. Probably Warlord or Prince. (but normally I don't get so much money in Vanilla BTS lol) Although, notably I have terrible micromanagement skills (and there's no worker automation) so my land isn't completely developed.
Tech lead + lots of money allows me to buy all the wonders as I unlock them, increasing this money lead. (Earlier, when I didn't get so much money, I rushed wonders with Treasure, as I had two city ruins in my borders.) I get so many Great Merchants that it's not even funny; I just get a few more techs with them. (Actually at this point I'm basically using all of my GP for more techs, save scientists for academies, doctors for health spas, and prophets for shrines).
I don't maintain much of an army except for this outpost in another continent (where I have ~200 rifles), because my main continent is just my vassal and myself.
Running on 100% tech by the way, with about ~10 cities running Research (none on Wealth). Funnily enough, mostly didn't build Gambling/Assassin/Pirate stuff after I saw the crime boost those give.
Also, it's now Industrial at 411 BC. Hmmm. Timeline might be off, but that's not a balance issue.
Tech lead + lots of money allows me to buy all the wonders as I unlock them, increasing this money lead. (Earlier, when I didn't get so much money, I rushed wonders with Treasure, as I had two city ruins in my borders.) I get so many Great Merchants that it's not even funny; I just get a few more techs with them. (Actually at this point I'm basically using all of my GP for more techs, save scientists for academies, doctors for health spas, and prophets for shrines).
I don't maintain much of an army except for this outpost in another continent (where I have ~200 rifles), because my main continent is just my vassal and myself.
Running on 100% tech by the way, with about ~10 cities running Research (none on Wealth). Funnily enough, mostly didn't build Gambling/Assassin/Pirate stuff after I saw the crime boost those give.
Also, it's now Industrial at 411 BC. Hmmm. Timeline might be off, but that's not a balance issue.
Try harder difficulty setting, or use the flexible difficulty option if unsure of the ost appropriate. We normally recommend playing C2C at lest 2 settings higher than you would play vanilla, and in V24 particularly gold abundance is greatly increased at lower difficulties
There is most definately a worker automation phenomist, you can even exclude improvements you don't want, prechop forests etc. Or did you mean you didn't use automation.. nevermind
I press the automate button, the workers don't move? Very weird. Eh.
@Koshling: Ok, thanks. Although maybe relabeling the difficulties would've worked a bit better
I press the automate button, the workers don't move? Very weird. Eh.
@Koshling: Ok, thanks. Although maybe relabeling the difficulties would've worked a bit better
They should do so at the end of the turn after everything has been either moved or automated. We could change this behaviour to force NEWLY automated (ONLY) units to perform their automation at once, so that the UI provides feedback for nwe C2C users - I don't think that would be hard to do.
In my current game I with an army of 15 units destroyed mongols, that had 200+ units in cities. For some reason AI doesn't know how to concentrate armies, do counterattacks and defend themselves. Mongols were just holding armies in cities, while I was defeating them one-by-one, restocking lost stacks and attacking again.
Deity, Eternity, Giant, No generals.
Deity, Eternity, Giant, No generals.
yes the distribution of ai's units is a big problem and koshling is already aware of it. Its not the easiest thing to fix but im pretty sure he has some ideas that he plans on implementing. He can only do one thing at a time and he's a busy man. I personally hate how ai keeps a ******** amount of units in there capital city which is usually in the centre of there empire. Also they don't use siege weapons properly.
A thought I had the other day regarding siege weapons and AI was to put opportunity fire (bug menu) on by default and teach the AI to sentry siege weapons - especially against enemy stacks where possible. This means if enemy is adjacent to siege while they are sentry, they take damage.
A thought I had the other day regarding siege weapons and AI was to put opportunity fire (bug menu) on by default and teach the AI to sentry siege weapons - especially against enemy stacks where possible. This means if enemy is adjacent to siege while they are sentry, they take damage.
What difficulty, gamespeed, civics, and version (v24 or SVN)?
Are you using any settled slaves from previous use of slavery with your current patrician? If so that's already been nerfed in the SVN.
I believe this has been fixed (if you mean culture wonders). Not 100% sure though...
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
@zienul,
Since you are using the Official v24 release (with the 2 patches I hope), then you don't have the new tech tree and religion founding techs in your game? I'm trying to gather some info is why I ask.
JosEPh
Since you are using the Official v24 release (with the 2 patches I hope), then you don't have the new tech tree and religion founding techs in your game? I'm trying to gather some info is why I ask.
JosEPh
Acularius
King
Could we remove the +1 gold citizens get under Patrician?
Similar to how slaves don't make the money, with their +1 - 1 bonus to gold.
Similar to how slaves don't make the money, with their +1 - 1 bonus to gold.
