One other thing I would like to address in this version are spawn dates of the existing civilisations. Right now I can think of two civilisations that would be affected: - France: spawn moved earlier, to 481 AD - China: spawn moved later, but undecided on when. Either 2070 BC (Xia dynasty) or 1600 BC (Shang dynasty) I don't think changing France would affect very much, except help early Catholicism. It's mostly about adjusting their starting techs. China will have a bigger impact, but I think mostly for good. A significant problem with balancing current China is that their modifiers have to be good enough so they are able to perform well when starting from nothing, but not too good so they are not a monster in the late game. Postponing their spawn would not only be more accurate, but actually make them easier to balance and perform better overall. Any thoughts on these civs, especially the Chinese starting date? Are there other civs that need a different start date?