Charlie Sheen apparently has HIV

[innonimatu]

And we should care he has HIV because...?

To comment on the speculation here, the probability he has infected some woman while on proper medication are next to zero, even if he failed to use condoms. Which I hope someone who did the dumb thing and got infected finally learned to always use. Though he does have a history of doing dumb things over and over.

What is it with americans and this impulse to think of lawsuits for everything?

 

[Archbob]

Isn't this the guy that was always "winning"?

 

[Birdjaguar]

And we should care he has HIV because...?

To comment on the speculation here, the probability he has infected some woman while on proper medication are next to zero, even if he failed to use condoms. Which I hope someone who did the dumb thing and got infected finally learned to always use. Though he does have a history of doing dumb things over and over.

What is it with americans and this impulse to think of lawsuits for everything?

We have lots of (too many) lawyers; they are in need of money so they encourage suing as a solution.

 

[CavLancer]

When one is talking about HIV, "next to zero" isn't zero.

 

[Flying Pig]

When one is talking about HIV, "next to zero" isn't zero.

Well, it actually is. They say that because the tests can't tell your blood apart from a non-sufferer, which means that you're not going to suffer any symptom and puts you well below the level at which you can infect somebody else. As long as you keep taking the drugs, you're no different from anyone else. I just found this from a quick Google search.

I think we should be careful with this: I remember not too long ago when people with HIV and AIDS were absolutely vilified, mostly out of ignorance, where people though that just touching them or being breathed on by them would infect you and kill you. Even today, there's so much stigma attached to it, like almost no other disease. Of all the people to torment, HIV sufferers seem like a particularly un-deserving bunch: I think they have enough trouble already!

 

[CavLancer]

Yes, sure, mustn't get hysteria going again. All that stuff with catching HIV off a door knob when HIV doesn't last long in an open environment is just silly. Forget that there are people out there who haven't a clue how they got it...nevertheless.

Having sex with someone who is HIV positive though, its just not for me. If I was still single and the planet's hottest HIV positive chick who is on all the right meds is offering me her first favors well I can honestly say I'd pass without a shadow of a doubt. One reason only...with HIV even zero isn't zero.

Others can go in and win, its just not for me, thanks. Call me whatever you care to, I don't care.

 

[Flying Pig]

Statistically speaking, you're more likely to catch HIV from somebody who has never been tested (1 in 8 sufferers don't know that they have it) than somebody who has previously had it and is taking medication that reduces it to undetectable levels.

 

[Bugfatty300]

And we should care he has HIV because...?

We really shouldn't care. I don't even think HIV+ is a big a risk for a guy like him. He'll just keep paying upfront for all the antiretroviral treatment he needs until he dies of something else.

Sheen seemed to be getting equal or more coverage than even the Paris attacks on US news channels.

 

[CavLancer]

Sure, I understand, its just the idea really. It would be bouncing around the back of my mind like a hundred billion superballs shot out of low Earth orbit at an unsuspecting planet. Here's a woman who is slowly dying of a virus that is sexually transmissible. But no worries!!?! Shes on meds that result in a level of transmission that is so low as to be essentially zero.

It still comes down to risking one's life for a roll in the hay. I mean someone wins the million in one scratch it, right?

 

[CavLancer]

This was a double post. Trying to think of something to put here to make it worth your while but coming up with nothing...oh yeah...

Advanced Merry Christmas!

 

[Silurian]

dppppppp

Since you do not know what your partners partners have done in the past you should always use a condom.

 

[Flying Pig]

Sure, I understand, its just the idea really. It would be bouncing around the back of my mind like a hundred billion superballs shot out of low Earth orbit at an unsuspecting planet. Here's a woman who is slowly dying of a virus that is sexually transmissible. But no worries!!?! Shes on meds that result in a level of transmission that is so low as to be essentially zero.

It still comes down to risking one's life for a roll in the hay. I mean someone wins the million in one scratch it, right?

Except she's not slowly dying of anything that the rest of us aren't slowly dying of. Nor does HIV actually kill you - it turns into AIDS, if untreated, which lets other things kill you. So really it's a million-to-one chance versus the 2500-to-one chance that you get from someone who has never been told that they have HIV, going by the British statistics. If you use a condom, that becomes (roughly) a 250,000-to-one chance, which is still four times worse than Charlie Sheen!

 

[CavLancer]

Yes, but the balls would still be bouncing. Doubt I'd be turned on by the idea of a hot chick with HIV. Perhaps there's no logic to it, but...nope.

Silurian, thankfully I survived the time before I was married and the wife and I are serious about our marriage. No worries here...

 

[Hygro]

I know this is crazy talk and not terribly respectful but my initial reaction was skepticism.

 

[Silurian]

Yes, but the balls would still be bouncing. Doubt I'd be turned on by the idea of a hot chick with HIV. Perhaps there's no logic to it, but...nope.

Silurian, thankfully I survived the time before I was married and the wife and I are serious about our marriage. No worries here...

I would not sleep with the HOT HIV+ woman. It would turn me off.

Flying Pig is most likely correct about the odds but people are not rational. People perceive the risk of something they have little control over as being orders of magnitude higher than they actually are.

 

[CavLancer]

I'm certainly not rational, nope, no way.

 

[CavLancer]

I know this is crazy talk and not terribly respectful but my initial reaction was skepticism.

You refused to believe that such an upstanding citizen somehow contracted AIDS? Well Hygro...what could you possibly mean by that? : perplexed:

Come to think of it, is Charlie gay or did he get it from a woman? Or I guess the correct way to say it is does he do it both sexes, his own and the ladies? There is only two these days, yes? There used to be only two but things change so fast...? Anyone?

 

[Hygro]

you can get it a number of ways.

 

[Archbob]

Isn't it like common sense to not sleep with someone that has slept with like literally hundreds of other people?

 

[Silurian]

You could sleep with a person who has only slept with one other person but unfortunately that other person has slept with hundreds.