Is this the end of liberalism?

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Liberalism is a political ideology which the political establishment in all western democracies is founded upon (cf. "liberal democracy"). How democrats and republicans share power vis a vis each other is irrelevant because they are both liberal parties, i.e. parties that subscribe to the liberal ideas about how society and the political system are supposed to be conceived and structured.

If this is the definition you subscribe to that would mean the modern Democrats aren't liberals.
 
Of course they are communists, that has already been established. They converted to communism to survive the end of liberalism, obviously.
 
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Is this the end of liberalism?

No, it's just the birth of new wave conservatism.
 
Out with the old, in with the new.

To be clear the new conservatives are the people using the term "regressive" while calling themselves progressive/liberals.
 
To be clear the new conservatives are the people using the term "regressive" while calling themselves progressive/liberals.

The liberals we have now aren't liberals. They think they are destine to dictate policy to everyone and those who disagree are an "enemy." They're going to get a really rude awakening.
 
If "these people" aren't seeing it I would seriously have to question their competence.

I've also seen plenty of polls to the contrary, but I don't pay much attention to them at this stage. It's far too early.

It's best to look at aggregate analysis of polls. But if you're not paying attention to polls, it's hard to say "it's self evident". Our only real source of data are polls, everything else is anecdote.

If the aggregate of polls disagrees with you, it's okay to not believe them. But it's wrong to say people are dumb for not disagreeing with their indicators.
 
The liberals we have now aren't liberals. They think they are destine to dictate policy to everyone and those who disagree are an "enemy." They're going to get a really rude awakening.


That statement is a bold faced lie.

I get that you, being a conservative, believe that the primary purpose of government is to control people, and that all liberty is to be ruthlessly crushed. And in order to crush liberty, you have to crush liberals. But you'd do better to make your propaganda less moronic while doing it.
 
The liberals we have now aren't liberals. They think they are destine to dictate policy to everyone and those who disagree are an "enemy." They're going to get a really rude awakening.

There's been the overzealous who think we should rush to push cutting edge hypotheses onto everyone. I get that, yes they can suck. However, by the time their message actually gets through we usually have had enough time to vet the idea. They're part of a bigger picture and by narrowly focusing on them you're making the friend/enemy distinction where it is not necessary.

tl;dr they're not a movement. They're a movement within a movement so look at the bigger picture.
 
To be clear the new conservatives are the people using the term "regressive" while calling themselves progressive/liberals.

What would be the point of having two parties that don't even pretend to be different? if you're progressive just vote democrat.
I think you're just wishful thinking to have two parties directly catering to your kind to the exclusion of the others.
 
What would be the point of having two parties that don't even pretend to be different? if you're progressive just vote democrat.
I think you're just wishful thinking to have two parties directly catering to your kind to the exclusion of the others.

I have no idea what you're referring to. Maybe you mean to quote someone else?
 
Meanwhile more racist and hateful leftys at Harvard.


Link to video.

"Why does white life have value? Our argument is white life is wrong."

"Affirming all life in general is not good."

"Why do white people deserve to live?"

"Affirming black life means that white death has to occur."

"Your life isn't worth affirming."

"White people should kill themselves because it's ethical."
 
That is debate club, where you're supposed to do your best to argue a point of view you might not necessarily agree with. I've never been a part of such a club, but from my understanding that is what is going on.

Now, sure, those guys are doing a pretty horrid job of arguing the "kill all white people" pov. They fail at it big time, and it's fairly offensive, I mean, all they're doing is throwing out soundbites that don't really mean anything, talking points, without actually doing any debating, but doesn't the same thing happen when people have to argue that the holocaust was justified? People end up saying horrid things, because they are trying to do their best to argue a point of view they might not necessarily agree with? They throw stuff like that at you in these debate clubs, right?

I think it's a pretty stupid way to argue a point, and the moderator should have been all "You are not debating, do you even know what debate club is all about??", but that's on the moderator, not those debating.

I mean, if I was the moderator I would have gotten the black dudes to argue the opposite point, and the white dudes the opposite point.. That would be a lot more interesting in terms of intellectual stimulation, no?

So all in all there is some idiocy there, but not nearly as much as you might think if you viewed this without any sort of context.

Disclaimer: I have never been a part of a debate club, or whatever they're called
 
That is debate club, where you're supposed to do your best to argue a point of view you might not necessarily agree with. I've never been a part of such a club, but from my understanding that is what is going on.

You're wrong.

The pro-genocide activists, Damiyr Davis and Miguel Feliciano, are from the University of West Georgia.

The topic of the debate was supposed to be renewable energy — not race. The subject was: "Resolved: The United States Federal Government should substantially reduce restrictions on and/or substantially increase financial incentives for energy production in the United States of one or more of the following: coal, crude oil, natural gas, nuclear power, solar power, wind power."

The white team chose to advocate wind turbines. Instead of addressing that issue, the black debaters began arguing that all whites should kill themselves and that their white opponents should die.

This was NOT a position that was assigned to them in class. They claimed that their pro-genocide movement was *REAL POLITICAL ACTIVISM.*
 
If right-wingers are panicking about the opinions of a bunch of kids, then I wonder who's really facing the end. After all, 'liberals' have persevered against many years of childish and crazy right-wing opinions.
 
I thought it was Harvard? The video title says "Harvard" :p

OK, assuming this is really even a legitimate video of any college class as opposed to a hoax... First issue is:
University of West Georgia.
So there's your first problem... According to US News and World Reports, the University of West Georgia doesn't even have a national ranking. It's given a regional ranking for "The South" at #87... so already in the South and still barely in the top 100. Please:rolleyes: #87 in the South?!? There's only 50 states in the Country!:lol:. Also, notice it has nearly a 50% acceptance rate, so basically they accept everyone who applies. Contrast that with Harvard University (which is in the title of the video) with its #2 National ranking and 6% acceptance rate.

This video is pure propaganda at its worst. By titling it "Harvard" they essentially try to make this a "Look whats going on in liberal academia!" thing... When really what is essentially going on is these are just a couple of random dudes, in some backwater Southern "school" that is one step above the mall food court... these guys are about as random as the random white-power salute lady at the Trump rally, and their statements can't really be seen as indicative of anything.
 
Well surely they can be seen as indicative of the fact that the individuals in question are a bunch of racists (if the story is true)? I'm sure if the races were the other way round then nobody would be using "but this is not a reputable academic institution" to avoid criticising the individuals in question.
 
If right-wingers are panicking about the opinions of a bunch of kids, then I wonder who's really facing the end. After all, 'liberals' have persevered against many years of childish and crazy right-wing opinions.

The liberals are destroying themselves. They've become everything they claim to despise. The liberals we have now aren't liberal. The right doesn't have to do anything because they're more about freedom and liberty than these regressives have ever been.

I thought it was Harvard? The video title says "Harvard" :p

OK, assuming this is really even a legitimate video of any college class as opposed to a hoax...

The people in the video have been identified:

Amazingly, the University of West Georgia brags about these two anti-white debaters on its website. The duo's passionate advocacy of white extermination has made them No. 2 in the country! http://tinyurl.com/zyyxafx
 
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