City State Elimination Thread

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Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14 (17 - 3) I rarely build CS improvements and again a religious CS that is not Yerevan.
Auckland = 2
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22.
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = 17
Jakarta = 17
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 14
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 14
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 21
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 21
Valletta = 22
Vilnius = 6
Yerevan = 22 (21 + 1) Religious CS that is Yerevan.
Zanzibar = 24
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 23 (Being from Christchurch I don't mind seeing Auckland reduced to 2 ^^^, but I suppose we better reinstate it's correct points :rolleyes:)
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22.
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = 17
Jakarta = 17
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 14
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 14
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22 (21+1)
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 21
Valletta = 22
Vilnius = 3 (6-3)
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24

Amenities from Muscat!! Whoop :D
If you doubled it to two random inspirations, Vilnius would be worth it more often I think...
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 23
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22.
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = 17
Jakarta = 17
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 14
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 14
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 21 + 1 = 22
Valletta = 22
Vilnius = 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24

Toronto is powerful late game. Vilnius's suzerain bonus is lacklustre at best.
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 23
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22.
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = 17
Jakarta = 17
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 15 (14 + 1) I'm going to stand up for Kandy. It certainly requires a lot of focus to get the best use out of it, but it allows you to accumulate relics faster and earlier than any other source, unlocking strategies that would otherwise be completely impossible.
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 11 (14 - 3) If there was an incentive to actually use sea trade routes, this would be an amazing ability. Unfortunately, there isn't.
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 23
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22.
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = 17
Jakarta = 17
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 15
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 11 - 3 = 8 I don't use sea trade routes that often.
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24 * 1 = 25 Those extra resources are very useful.
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 23
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong = (17-3)=14 I rarely use city projects, maybe only by the end of the game...
Jakarta = (17+1)=18 I rely on international trade routes a lot...
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 15
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 25
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24 (+1) - If you can get this one, you can get get some pretty powerful coastal cities especially with the buff to harbors in the latest patch.
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 14
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12 (-3) In order for you to get this bonus, you have to get THREE envoys before you even bother with exploration, which, is a stupid strategy to pursue.
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 25
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 14 - 3 = 11 The religious pressure ability is a bit meh ...
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22 + 1 = If playing for a religious victory, Yerevan is almost mandatory !
Zanzibar = 25
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem 12 (11+1) once they saved my religion
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 23
Zanzibar = 22 (25-3) curiously, mostly on the side against me
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem 9 (12-3) this city really should have a more powerful bonus
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24 (23 +1) OP, but makes for an easy religious victory
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 9 - 3 = 6 (I can't even really tell that it's doing anything and the AI loves it so the envoy cost is steep)
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 22 + 1 = 23 (Housing bonus for all cities is extremely convenient - and allows for more flexibility when settling new ones)
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 6
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 8 - 3 = 5 Even if its bonus wasn't already really weak, with Armagh included, it now feels like a watered-down version of their bonus.
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 23 + 1 = 24 Extra housing? Yes please!
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 23
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 24
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 6
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 22
La Venta = 2 (5 -3) Weak version of Armagh.
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24 (23 + 1) Great for producting great people.
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Please note; I pretty much always vote at around 9pm NZ time (12 hours ahead of Greenwich). I couldn't vote then tonight, but I will return to that time tomorrow.

Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 25 (24+1)
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 6
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19 (22-3)
La Venta = 2
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22

Amenities and production! Oh my!
Trade Routes to city states are pretty situational...
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 26 (+1) Multiple free amenities; what's not to like?
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 18
Jerusalem = 3 (-3) Passive religious pressure is just too weak.
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19 (22-3)
La Venta = 2
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 27 (26 + 1) Zanzibar is getting plenty of upvotes, and this is better with only three bonus resources.
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15 (18 - 3) Requires significant set-up to provide even an average bonus.
Jerusalem = 3
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19
La Venta = 2
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 22
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 27
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Jerusalem = 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Better make Hebrews a civ
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19 (22-3)
La Venta = 2
Lisbon = 8
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 22 + 1 = 23 With 9-range factories, power plants, zoos, and stadia, what's not to like?
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 27
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 22 + 1 = 23 Again, if you are missing a resource, this can be a life-saver.
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19 (22-3)
La Venta = 2
Lisbon = 8 -3 = 5 How often have you seen a sea trade route plundered?
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 23
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22

I wish you guys would quit using that light green, it is really hard to read.
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 27
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19
La Venta = 2-3=0 Farewell to thee, La Venta..CS improvements just aren't good enough
Lisbon = 5
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 23
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 24
Zanzibar = 22+1=23 It's nice to have amenities and it's a Commercial CS
 
Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 28 (27+1) I like Amenities and this can help a lot if you have at least 1 of each bonus resource.
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19
Lisbon = 5
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 23
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 21 (24-3) Good if you are playing a religious game other wise it's useless
Zanzibar = 24
 
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