City State Elimination Thread

[Magma_Dragoon]

Amsterdam = 14
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29 (+1) all cities should be ecstatic at all times, and why shouldn't milk make people happy?
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19
Lisbon = 5
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24
Toronto = 20 (-3) in v1.0 probably the best, but it has fallen from grace with the aoe nerf
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 21
Zanzibar = 24

 

[helic0n]

Amsterdam = 14 - 3 = 11 (what is an international trade route???)
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 12
Kumasi = 19
Lisbon = 5
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 24 + 1 = 25 (excellent early source of GPP; good for any strategy, too)
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 21
Zanzibar = 24

 

[Siptah]

Amsterdam = 11
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 9 (12-3) Great potential. But hard to get those 3 envoys there that early. If you are lucky it can be powerful. Otherwise it's meh.
Kumasi = 20 (19+1) A real game changer if you happen to have lots of trade route slots.
Lisbon = 5
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 21
Zanzibar = 24

 

[kaspergm]

Amsterdam = 11
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21
Kandy = 9
Kumasi = 20
Lisbon = 2 (-3) While I guess it might be useful on some maps, I have yet to actually experience a case where I reaped a benefit from this specialization.
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22 (+1) - because this city state can single-handedly offer you the easiest imaginable victory.
Zanzibar = 24

 

[Kinestic]

Amsterdam = 11 - 3 = 8 The only way this city-state will be useful is if internal trade routes are nerfed.
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 21 + 1 = 22 Incredibly useful for a Domination victory, and even if you don't peruse this path, it still allows for high powered troops just from barb culling in the early stage of the game.
Kandy = 9
Kumasi = 20
Lisbon = 2
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = 9
Kumasi = 20
Lisbon = 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - It's ability is useless, since traders on sea are rarely attacked.
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 22
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 24+1=25 - Extra luxuries and amenities? Great!

 

[bbbt]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = 6 (9-3) I'll job on the hate bandwagon. Way to niche to usually be useful (must find it early, and become and stay suzerain, before finding natural wonders). Plus, the fact that it only provides the 50% relic boost if you have found a natural wonder while suzerain makes it even more limited.
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23 (22+1) Another boost for my favorite amenity source. I'll usually have a commercial district in each city - getting an amenity for each one means I might be getting 15+ amenities from this one CS.
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 25

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22
Carthage = 26 + 1 = 27 (I've already covered all my favorites so another upvote for Carthage which has the best bonus)
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = 6 - 3 = 3 (I've never gotten a relic from this and usefulness is very situational)
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22
Zanzibar = 25

 

[King William I]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 22 + 1 = 23

Bonus to wonders is always good

Carthage = 26
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = 6
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 22 - 3 = 19

Useless if not going for religious victory

Zanzibar = 25

 

[Bubz]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 14 - 3 = 11 Until they make religion actually obtainable in the higher difficulties (and why would i waste religion on apostles instead of GPP?... I would rather conquer Armagh than suze it)
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 27
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = 3
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 19
Zanzibar = 25 + 1 = 26 If i see Zanzibar, it is my first Suze. In the early game, it's the biggest benefit you can get out of all the city-states because the effect is instantaneous without any work on your side (no builders needed). Not to mention, trade routes to it are nice for upgrading units.

 

[Guandao]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 11
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 27
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kandy = (3-3)=0 Let's end Kandy's suffering, why stop exploration for their suzerain bonus?
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = (19+1)=20 Perhaps the best Religious CS in the current game
Zanzibar = 26

 

[Manifold]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 11
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28 (27+1) is the best
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 20
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23 (26-3) always in trouble

 

[Guynemer]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8 (-3) The weakest religious CS left
Auckland = 24
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21 (+1) Gonna spread around the love; getting 6-8 culture per trade route is nothing to sneeze at
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 18
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23 (26-3) always in trouble

 

[Amrunril]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8
Auckland = 25 (24 + 1) Probably the largest production bonus in a game dominated by production.
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 22
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 17
Palenque = 15 (18 - 3) The percentage growth modifier isn't going to make a huge difference in cities struggling for food, and cities that do have plenty of excess food will generally be limited by housing and amenities rather than raw growth rate.
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

 

[WillowBrook]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23 (22+1) nice bonus if managing to stay at peace
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 14 (17-3) extra culture is great, but bad synergy with seaside resorts
Palenque = 15
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 22
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

 

[ShakaKhan]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 23
Nan Madol = 15 (14+1)In the frequent scenarios where I'm NOT building seaside resorts because I'm not going for a culture victory and I want all of my trade routes to be internal (because hammers are better than gold) this is the best advantage for progressing through the culture tree without burning district slots or pantheons on theaters.
Palenque = 15
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 19 (22-3) If I have garbage faith generation, which often occurs when I don't found a religion and have no faith UI, I can no longer create walls, which is the only "trade-off" bonus of any city state in the game.
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

 

[Siptah]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 24 (23+1) Yay for amenities that you get for something you want to do anyway.
Nan Madol = 15
Palenque = 12 (15-3) City growth is overrated. Housing is the problem, not food or the rate of growth when there is enough housing. Also, no need for megacities in civ VI.
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 19
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

Valletta = 19 (22-3) If I have garbage faith generation, which often occurs when I don't found a religion and have no faith UI, I can no longer create walls, which is the only "trade-off" bonus of any city state in the game.

I've read something like this before on these forums, but I still don't get it. I'm sure I could always build granaries, water mills and walls when being suzerain of Valetta. You can never buy walls with gold - suzerain of Valetta or not.

 

[Forster]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 8
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 23 + 1 = 24 In too many games, I have been short needed resources.
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 21
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 24 .
Nan Madol = 15
Palenque = 12 - 3 = 9 I agree, city growth is overrated.
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 19
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

 

[bbbt]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 5 (8-3) I hate to knock one of the 'city states' I've actually been to, but the improvement CS's aren't great, and this might be the weakest
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23
Granada = 17
Hattusa = 24
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 22 (21 +1) If you aren't playing a cultural game, this guy (with a few CS trad routes) and meritocracy can end up giving you almost all you need
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 24
Nan Madol = 15
Palenque = 9
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = 20
Valletta = 19
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23

 

[Guandao]

Amsterdam = 8
Antananarivo = 17
Armagh = 5
Auckland = 25
Buenos Aires = 29
Brussels = 23
Carthage = 28
Geneva = 23
Granada = (17-3)=14 I just don't bother with CS improvements, and I'm not the warmongering type who can use the Alcazar more often
Hattusa = 24
Hong Kong = 14
Jakarta = 15
Kabul = 22
Kumasi = 22
Mohenjo Daro = 24
Muscat = 24
Nan Madol = 15
Palenque = 9
Stockholm = 25
Toronto = (20+1)=21 It has a decent suzerain bonus in a game where Production is key.
Valletta = 19
Yerevan = 20
Zanzibar = 23