Civ VII Weekly Reveal Guessing Thread

[Krikkit1]

Obviously Firaxis will explain their rationale, but the way I see it, I think Hawai’i in the Exploration Age perfectly fits their likely Civ 7 implementation.

The Kingdom may not have been unified until the 1790s, but the culture certainly was established long before Kamehameha I. The unified kingdom actually represented a period of stark population decline for the islands, and obviously culminated in its colonisation and annexation by the United States.

Whereas by focusing on the earlier period, Civ 7 can feature a civilisation that represents the migration of the Polynesians into the archipelago in the 900s as you explore and settle small islands on the newly revealed map, which you then turn into your core territory for the age. This represents the development and spread of Hawai’ian culture (and its strict religion and societal code of laws) as a unique civilisation arising from oceanic exploration. I think this is more in the spirit of the gameplay we would expect after Civ 5’s Polynesia and Civ 6’s Māori, which are I think pretty fun and popular with players. As to why they picked Hawai’i rather than any other Polynesian culture, I think it’s largely audience familiarity…

I could see that. focusing on Hawaii (like Greece) rather than the Hawaiian Kingdom would make sense for the Exploration age.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Obviously Firaxis will explain their rationale, but the way I see it, I think Hawai’i in the Exploration Age perfectly fits their likely Civ 7 implementation.

The Kingdom may not have been unified until the 1790s, but the culture certainly was established long before Kamehameha I. The unified kingdom actually represented a period of stark population decline for the islands, and obviously culminated in its colonisation and annexation by the United States.

I think the rationale is they wanted it to be a pathway to America, because it is part of the U.S. today, and America was always going to be Modern. It also fits the theme of exploration. I'm not sure it gets much deeper than that.

 

[Uberfrog]

I think the rationale is they wanted it to be a pathway to America, because it is part of the U.S. today, and America was always going to be Modern. It also fits the theme of exploration. I'm not sure it gets much deeper than that.

Perhaps, but I feel like such pathways were clearly of secondary importance in the selection of civs (Inca, Buganda, etc)…

 

[gdr_willter]

I also consider them as "the Polynesian" Civ for now. In this point of view, the Exploration Age is definitely the best option for them.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Yeah agree with you there on suspected justification. Even if it is like attributing the Spanish colonisation of the Americas to Mexico because Mexico was there afterwards, the name recognition is probably what seals it.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Perhaps, but I feel like such pathways were clearly of secondary importance in the selection of civs (Inca, Buganda, etc)…

I mean I also think that the eventual Polynesian pathway will be Tonga>Hawaii>Maori.

There's a Tongan wonder in Antiquity, plus they were the first Polynesian group to form a hegemony in the region. The Maori were the last group to reach their islands and constitute the largest population of Polynesian people today. In that regard, Hawaii would fit right in the middle between those two as well.

 

[TheSpaceCowboy]

I can see Hercules and Mulan in the distance. "Disney Assemble!"

Now I kind of want to see Disney develop a Civilization clone with all of their classic kingdoms as playable civs, led by their heroes and princesses. It’d at least have to be better than Humsnkind or Ara.

 

[Jeppetto]

Yes we need the most culturally impactful princess of them all... Cusco leads the Inca in Disney's Civilization't...

 

[Zaarin]

Yes we need the most culturally impactful princess of them all... Cusco leads the Inca in Disney's Civilization't...

We already have this.

 

[Gorbles]

You all joke, but if I could get Kronk as an advisor or Great Person-alike, I would singlehandedly fund Civ VIII.

 

[Zaarin]

You all joke, but if I could get Kronk as an advisor or Great Person-alike, I would singlehandedly fund Civ VIII.

Oh, right. The advice...the advice for the player...the advice specifically chosen to advise the player...the player's advice. That advice?

 

[Krajzen]

I would unironically buy April Fools DLC (even better if it is free ) adding to the game joke advisors/personas/leaders such as Cusco/Yzma/Kronk for Inca, Diogenes of Sinope for Greece, Philomena Cunk for Britain, Don Quixote for Spain, Leslie Nielsen as the US president etc.

 

[Evie]

A Saskatchewan-born Canadian, US president?! Surely you can't be serious!

 

[Krajzen]

On what day should we expect the new reveals of civs and leaders? My addiction has been moderate enough to still not keep up with such information

 

[JNR13]

One civ and one leader this week. Usually it's a civ on Tuesday and a leader on Thursday, both at 18:00 CET. I'd expect Songhai + Amina as a double drop on a single day, especially since we already know most of Songhai's uniques and also know about Amina being in the game already. But surely if Lili'uokalani were in, we'd also get her and Hawai'i the same day.

So my guess is today Hawai'i, with its queen not being in the game and then we get another leader on Thursday. I still think we're gonna get a Korean leader from the Exploration Age period. It would make a lot of sense to cover a civ omission in the base game this way and we haven't gotten any East Asian leader past antiquity yet. Likewise, I think Montezuma as a leader could cover the lack of Aztecs as a civ, but I'm expecting his reveal alongside Mexico in the modern age then.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

On what day should we expect the new reveals of civs and leaders? My addiction has been moderate enough to still not keep up with such information

It's usually a Tuesday/Thursday thing. Sometimes they have strayed to Mondays and Fridays though. I don't believe we have seen anything on a Wednesday yet.

@JNR13 Thursday is a major US holiday and historically, Firaxis hasn't done a reveal on a major holiday.

 

[Krikkit1]

One civ and one leader this week. Usually it's a civ on Tuesday and a leader on Thursday, both at 18:00 CET. I'd expect Songhai + Amina as a double drop on a single day, especially since we already know most of Songhai's uniques and also know about Amina being in the game already. But surely if Lili'uokalani were in, we'd also get her and Hawai'i the same day.

So my guess is today Hawai'i, with its queen not being in the game and then we get another leader on Thursday. I still think we're gonna get a Korean leader from the Exploration Age period. It would make a lot of sense to cover a civ omission in the base game this way and we haven't gotten any East Asian leader past antiquity yet. Likewise, I think Montezuma as a leader could cover the lack of Aztecs as a civ, but I'm expecting his reveal alongside Mexico in the modern age then.

Although they didn’t say a new civ this week…they just said very soon. So it’s possible there is none this week….but likely later today (fits with earlier schedule and they don’t shove it out on the way out the door tomorrow)

 

[JNR13]

It's usually a Tuesday/Thursday thing. Sometimes they have strayed to Mondays and Fridays though. I don't believe we have seen anything on a Wednesday yet.

@JNR13 Thursday is a major US holiday and historically, Firaxis hasn't done a reveal on a major holiday.

Oh nice, so there is still a chance for her! Revealing a native civ + leader from today's US territory would also kinda fit Thanksgiving week then.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I've grown skeptical that Firaxis will have a Polynesian leader for Hawaii (although I think they should have one). So, I'm expecting Amina/Songhai today, making for a low-key holiday week. I expect Hawaii to be on Tuesday of next week, with the first Modern civ-leader combo to be the Thursday of next week.

 

[CivKirk64]

A Saskatchewan-born Canadian, US president?! Surely you can't be serious!

Not gonna say, it nope....nooope.