Civ VII Weekly Reveal Guessing Thread

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

This may be the third week in a row I've guessed it, but Liliuokalani and Hawaii are my predictions for next week.

 

[gdr_willter]

Well, at least the upcoming leader will not be a European...

I carefully see the possibility that we'll not get a Hawaiian leader for the base game. SEA got Trung Trac who are not matching with any civ in the area. Both are still possible: no Polynesian leader in the base game, or Polynesian leader who are not from Hawaii.

 

[Zaarin]

Well, at least the upcoming leader will not be a European...

Surprise, the leader reveal is Humbert White-hands, Count of Savoy, and wouldn't you know it, his recommended civ is Normandy.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

It's sad if the Kingdom of Hawaii doesn't get a Hawaiian or at least a Polynesian to rule it.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

Polynesian leader who are not from Hawaii.

I hadn't even considered this possibility, but it is a real one... some of my internal reasoning was that for Shawnee and Hawaii to America, the presence of leaders directly tied to the two would make the transition feel a bit... better? The civ changing from Shawnee to United States seems like it won't feel as bad if Tecumseh's still in the driver's seat, you know? An actual Hawaiian leader would serve a similar purpose in my mind. Of course, we don't know all of what's going into the leader decisions, so it's just speculation at this point.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I hadn't even considered this possibility, but it is a real one... some of my internal reasoning was that for Shawnee and Hawaii to America, the presence of leaders directly tied to the two would make the transition feel a bit... better? The civ changing from Shawnee to United States seems like it won't feel as bad if Tecumseh's still in the driver's seat, you know? An actual Hawaiian leader would serve a similar purpose in my mind. Of course, we don't know all of what's going into the leader decisions, so it's just speculation at this point.

That's my feeling as well, but also that leaders should represent broad, general areas in the same way that civs represent specific cultures. And we have an Oceanic civ, but no Oceanic leader. It feels like a bleak hole in the leader map.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Persia was revealed a month ago.

But not Sassanid Persia.

Or is it Hawaii and a random guy named George who sat next to Ed Beach in second grade?

Hawaii and George III, at least has a connection.

I'm hoping it will be Hawaii and a Polynesian leader, because Amina and Songhai would feel really boring considering we basically know what they do. And hopefully that Polynesian leader pairs well with the Majapahit as well.

 

[Zaarin]

But not Sassanid Persia.

It would be nice.

 

[Vennlig]

Any educated guesses when we might get the next livestream? The civ/leader reveals are nice but slightly impatient for a bit more gameplay Guessing it won't be any time soon with Thanksgiving next week.

 

[Evie]

The Sassanid, like the Tang, suffer from being hard to fit in the ages system. They just fell too early to properly fit exploration (though all their best known rivals are there), and they’re unfortunately overshadowed by a much more famous predecessor in ancient (Achaemenid, Han)

 

[Seek]

Any educated guesses when we might get the next livestream? The civ/leader reveals are nice but slightly impatient for a bit more gameplay

I feel the same! Really itching for more gameplay.

I’d guess December 5th, since the last two streams have been the first week of the month and 2/3 have been on Thursday. Fingers crossed we get Modern Age gameplay..

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Any educated guesses when we might get the next livestream? The civ/leader reveals are nice but slightly impatient for a bit more gameplay Guessing it won't be any time soon with Thanksgiving next week.

They only did the previous two livestreams after seeding several civ guides for most of the civs present in the livestreams.

Therefore, I'd say that it will be several weeks into the Modern Age segment of the civ guide release schedule. Probably early-mid January. Modern civ guides should start the latter half of two weeks from now.

 

[Krikkit1]

They only did the previous two livestreams after seeding several civ guides for most of the civs present in the livestreams.

Therefore, I'd say that it will be several weeks into the Modern Age segment of the civ guide release schedule. Probably early-mid January. Modern civ guides should start the latter half of two weeks from now.

Especially with Holiday season I agree, no Livestream till mid January

 

[chaosprophet]

They only did the previous two livestreams after seeding several civ guides for most of the civs present in the livestreams.

Therefore, I'd say that it will be several weeks into the Modern Age segment of the civ guide release schedule. Probably early-mid January. Modern civ guides should start the latter half of two weeks from now.

I hope they do a modern stream earlier than latter cause there is lots of things they have yet to show, like crisis, trade on exploration, etc. I'm guessing when they got a base video for each age out, then they my tackle those things that are part of all ages, even if in different forms, be it through a stream or at least to a moderately sized video on it.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

The Sassanid, like the Tang, suffer from being hard to fit in the ages system. They just fell too early to properly fit exploration (though all their best known rivals are there), and they’re unfortunately overshadowed by a much more famous predecessor in ancient (Achaemenid, Han)

I doubt it either, considering they just called the Antiquity Age Persia. I'm not even certain that a Modern Persian dynasty will come in the future, but I think it could have potentially worked. I mean Zoroastrianism is a religion in the game, and they could have had a Fire Temple quarter which could found a religion, and an Aswaran cavalry unit.

I mean Besides China and India, I think Persia would be the next best one to get 3 civs across all ages.

 

[Seek]

They only did the previous two livestreams after seeding several civ guides for most of the civs present in the livestreams.

Therefore, I'd say that it will be several weeks into the Modern Age segment of the civ guide release schedule. Probably early-mid January. Modern civ guides should start the latter half of two weeks from now.

For the Shawnee stream there was very little revealed coming into it - as I recall they were still presenting Antiquity Age civs. There's been a clear pattern of one livestream early every month, and I see no reason for that not to continue, so I expect three more before early access launch.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

For the Shawnee stream there was very little revealed coming into it - as I recall they were still presenting Antiquity Age civs. There's been a clear pattern of one livestream early every month, and I see no reason for that not to continue, so I expect three more before early access launch.

I'd consider the Shawnee stream as an outlier. It was clearly meant as a public relations move, both to assure players that the Shawnee were cool with the way they are presented and to reaffirm the good relationship that the team has with Chief Barnes.

Only the Antiquity and Exploration livestreams should be considered and they both occurred after several civ guides were released.

 

[Nic@Melbourne]

Well, at least the upcoming leader will not be a European...

I carefully see the possibility that we'll not get a Hawaiian leader for the base game. SEA got Trung Trac who are not matching with any civ in the area. Both are still possible: no Polynesian leader in the base game, or Polynesian leader who are not from Hawaii.

I thought the standard AI line would be straight up SEA: Khmer-Majapahit-Siam (w Trung).
Its likely actually Khmer-Majapahit-Meiji w/ Trung and Himako. So they do have a matching leader.
With Maurya-Chola-Siam needing a another leader.

 

[Lonecat Nekophrodite]

Next Week. Songhai--in detail.
So far only names and few UU shows up.
And Trung didn't make a good Siames Leaders. Vietnamese are very much Sinic to me, their culture is not Hindic at all, while all the three Southeast Asian civs are strongly Hindic. where Pali-Sanskrit has found its way to their languages.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

I'm confused as to why people are still trying to make any connection between civs and leaders. They are explicitly mechanically detached now, and it appears to be completely random whether include civs have leaders associated or not. They just seem to be going for a smattering of significant people without much regard to where they are from. Charlemagne, just like Trung Trac has no relation to any civs beyond being from somewhere close by to some of them. There doesn't seem to be any logic or consistency applied to the links between civs across ages, so I don't know why there would to any links across from leaders to civs either.

Might not be Songhai next either. They delayed Persia as the last antiquity civ until after a few exploration civs had been announced so they go down the exploration livestream. We've got about two weeks now until the next "slot" for a livestream if there is one, so if they went for modern civ releases until then, then closed off exploration with Songhai after that would follow with what they've done before. They announced the last livestream a week out from doing it, so imagine we'll know more within the next week or 2 whether we're getting anything this side of Christmas.