[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Babylon with Ancient Walls replacement, Byzantium with Medieval Walls replacement and Georgia with Renaissance Walls replacement. If all three are in game it unlocks extra Allaince type called Defensive Allaince. They all have the same agenda, telling you how pathetic you are without walls, flexing with theirs in each era like it's fashion parade. They stack the walls and use them to reach Mars for Scientific Victory. Project Wall-E. By the time they are done you will miss Walls into Castle into Fortress which was the original idea.

Do they all have the same lines saying that you have the Georgian Spirit if you build walls?

Three Georgias: Alexander's Hetairoi was referring to the US state of Georgia. But considering South Georgia Island is a barely inhabited rock (Wikipedia says it has a year-round population of 16) in the South Atlantic, I think its chances are even lower than the state of Georgia. (I think what you're missing here is that before the Civ6 base game was released a blurry poster of leaders was "accidentally" leaked, and the leader that gave us the most difficulty was Gorgo--for whom many, many people repeatedly suggested Tamar of Georgia. That is how she became a meme and ended up in the game. )

There's actually 4 groups if you use the name Georgians to refer to the people from Georgian Era Great Britain.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Speaking of fusion districts, Irish Monasteries would make a good holy site/theatre square replacement with a sprinkling of extra science

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Speaking of fusion districts, Irish Monasteries would make a good holy site/theatre square replacement with a sprinkling of extra science

I think we're all missing the obvious one for the future:
The Roman Forum replacing the city center, government plaza, holy site and commercial hub.
That way Rome can build aqueducts again.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I think we're all missing the obvious one for the future:
The Roman Forum replacing the city center, government plaza, holy site and commercial hub.
That way Rome can build aqueducts again.

roman cities are going to feel so empty on the map

 

[untitledjuan]

I think we're all missing the obvious one for the future:
The Roman Forum replacing the city center, government plaza, holy site and commercial hub.
That way Rome can build aqueducts again.

It is actually very rare to have cities divided in specific districts for specific activities, at least as neatly divided as it is shown in the game. Specific zoning only happened after people got aware of urban planning in the late 19 and 20 century. Everything was located in a single compact city before that

 

[Thenewwwguy]

It is actually very rare to have cities divided in specific districts for specific activities, at least as neatly divided as it is shown in the game. Specific zoning only happened after people got aware of urban planning in the late 19 and 20 century. Everything was located in a single compact city before that

my head canon is each district is another city which specializes in whatever yield it produces. Encampments are military towns, campuses are university towns, etc.

Actually there’s this brand new mod called City Lights which actually seems really interesting in that it introduces options to make certain parts of your realm urban or rural, so you can expand your city center (which i’d imagine as the nuclear center of an urban group with expansion districts or introduce suburban satellite towns to transform a rural region. So city ‘centers’ are like capitals of provinces and then the districts are various other cities and towns within that province.

That’s always what made sense to me

 

[Kupe Navigator]

is there any chance for Nelson Mandela to be come out as a leader for South Africa? Or is Civ team too afraid of nonsense about Mandela being a communist brute? ( sorry but I saw that idiotic comment a lot in civ 5 mod for South Africa under Mandela... )

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

is there any chance for Nelson Mandela to be come out as a leader for South Africa? Or is Civ team too afraid of nonsense about Mandela being a communist brute? ( sorry but I saw that idiotic comment a lot in civ 5 mod for South Africa under Mandela... )

Any modern leader that close in time to the present day is probably going to be controversial, regardless of your political stance.
After Gran Colombia I don't think we personally need any more post-colonial civs anyway.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

Any modern leader that close in time to the present day is probably going to be controversial, regardless of your political stance.
After Gran Colombia I don't think we personally need any more post-colonial civs anyway.

I don't know... I thought all leaders who are important and dead ( thus can be judged) are a fair game... We even had haile selassie in civ 5. Just think it would be nice to have a south African nation that is not Zulus)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I don't know... I thought all leaders who are important and dead ( thus can be judged) are a fair game... We even had haile selassie in civ 5. Just think it would be nice to have a south African nation that is not Zulus)

Halie Selassie to me was a weird pick and I'm at least glad they went with Menelik II this time since they went with a modern leader.
I've never personally minded the Zulu to solely represent South Africa, but if we were going to have others I'd rather it not be a post-colonial nation.

 

[Kupe Navigator]

I've never personally minded the Zulu to solely represent South Africa, but if we were going to have others I'd rather it not be a post-colonial nation.

I think South Africa is important enough to be included as the last post-colonial nation... ( then again I'd like Mexico as well...)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I think South Africa is important enough to be included as the last post-colonial nation... ( then again I'd like Mexico as well...)

At this point I think it would only really fill the quota of now we have a "Dutch" post-colonial nation after we already have at least one English, French (I'm counting Canada), Spanish and Portuguese one.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I think South Africa is important enough to be included as the last post-colonial nation... ( then again I'd like Mexico as well...)

i don’t think mexico should be a civ namely for its large native influence, specifically by the natives already in the game. Nahuatl and Maya are the largest spoken languages besides Spanish, and 2/5 mexicans are of heritage of one of these two, or the Purépecha. I’d much rather see the Purépecha Empire than introduce Mexico.

I think South Africa would be an interesting civ to introduce as a potential geographic replacement for the Zulu at some point but as it stands Nelson Mandela, who is a leader I’d love to see, only second to Thomas Sankara (who obviously doesn’t really lead a civ), died too recently to be a viable candidate

 

[Kupe Navigator]

"Dutch" post-colonial nation

Indonesia is kina that one... granted it is really Javanese civ but well it is called Indonesia and even Gitarja herself says the name...

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Indonesia is kina that one... granted it is really Javanese civ but well it is called Indonesia and even Gitarja herself says the name...

not at all. Jakarta is the only post colonial city on the list and the design clearly represents just the Majapahit empire and not Indonesia at a whole

 

[Kupe Navigator]

I think South Africa would be an interesting civ to introduce as a potential geographic replacement for the Zulu at some point but as it stands Nelson Mandela, who is a leader I’d love to see, only second to Thomas Sankara (who obviously doesn’t really lead a civ), died too recently to be a viable candidate

I just want tourist/cultural based South African nation- to set itself apart from militaristic Zulus

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Any modern leader that close in time to the present day is probably going to be controversial, regardless of your political stance.
After Gran Colombia I don't think we personally need any more post-colonial civs anyway.

I think South Africa is important enough to be included as the last post-colonial nation... ( then again I'd like Mexico as well...)

I'd argue the only post-colonial civ with any shot at this point is South Africa. Gran Colombia hits a sweet spot between Mexican haciendas and Argentinian gauchos, so I don't think either of those have much aesthetic/design space left. And South Africa is really the only post-colonial Africa nation with any modern success outside of the Maghreb, and has the additional pull of having been a powerhouse in CBR.

That said, I don't think we need a second South African civ and really I think a lot of this just stems from mild disappointment in the unidimensional Zulus occupying that space every time.

 

[Xandinho]

I'd argue the only post-colonial civ with any shot at this point is South Africa. Gran Colombia hits a sweet spot between Mexican haciendas and Argentinian gauchos, so I don't think either of those have much aesthetic/design space left. And South Africa is really the only post-colonial Africa nation with any modern success outside of the Maghreb, and has the additional pull of having been a powerhouse in CBR.

That said, I don't think we need a second South African civ and really I think a lot of this just stems from mild disappointment in the unidimensional Zulus occupying that space every time.

I still dream of the day that they can add another civ to southern Africa, Madagascar would be a good choice.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I'd argue the only post-colonial civ with any shot at this point is South Africa. Gran Colombia hits a sweet spot between Mexican haciendas and Argentinian gauchos, so I don't think either of those have much aesthetic/design space left. And South Africa is really the only post-colonial Africa nation with any modern success outside of the Maghreb, and has the additional pull of having been a powerhouse in CBR.

Yes Gran Colombia was designed to be the Spanish American civ with the hacienda improvement and the Llaneros as basically the gauchos of Colombia/Venezuela.

I would say Nigeria has had as much modern success as well, but I still would choose a pre-colonial group like the Kingdom of Benin if we had to represent Nigeria.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I’d much rather see the Shona than South Africa. It occupies a more geographically distinct position than South Africa and can go strong on trade and settlement.

That said I wouldn’t be opposed to South Africa replacing Zulu in future iterations of the game just for gameplay variance if we can’t have Cetshwayo to replace Shaka