[NFP] Civilization VI: Possible New Civilizations Thread

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Eagle Pursuit, May 11, 2020.

  1. TeddyMain

    TeddyMain Warlord

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2019
    Messages:
    233
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    Definitely would love a Hawaiian civ that would have some bonuses to volcanoes, and definitely some ocean-based bonuses.

    Although personally, I'd much take Kamehameha I over Lili'uokalani.
     
  2. Codeword Iroquois

    Codeword Iroquois Warlord

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2020
    Messages:
    124
    Gender:
    Male
    So, if they did a final pass, which is seeming unlikely, likely choices seem to be:
    Italy for a European DLC, Maybe paired with Ireland, or Switzerland, a Kalmar themed Denmark, or Bulgaria (Or Goths, as I would hope)
    Morocco for Africa, maybe paired with an Egyptian alt-leader (Ramesses probably, but preferably some more overlooked leader for the series),
    Assyria, probably under Ashurbanipal, from the Middle East,
    Hawaii and the Iroquois for a "native" pass (that's the best name I can tie them with off the top of my head)
    Siam, Burma, or Afghanistan for Asia,
    Maybe Madagascar or Kilwa for Sub-Saharan Africa, to wrap the game with options that I've seen thrown around quite frequently.
     
  3. PhoenicianGold

    PhoenicianGold Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    1,828
    I think the Inuit stand a bigger chance than Hawaii, honestly. That is not to say that Hawaii would not be a cool or welcome addition.

    I think the Goths are unlikely at this point, and even if they were included I don't think they would be paired with Italy. More likely with Numidia or Bulgaria.

    I also think Ireland and Switzerland just aren't happening. They weren't really empires or anything resembling empires, work perfectly fine as city-states.

    The rest are...possible. I think Burma is more likely than Siam, and really Oman/Kilwa/Madagascar are kind of a toss-up.
     
  4. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2020
    Messages:
    3,314
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rouen, Normandy
    Who would lead the Inuit, though?
     
  5. PhoenicianGold

    PhoenicianGold Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    1,828
    Ekeuhnick. Legendary on the level of Gilgamesh or Kupe, but would still be appropriate.

    (also, I'm not commenting about how well the Inuit would fit a civ mold. Merely that they are insanely popular and might be shoehorned in anyway)
     
  6. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    Bolivar and Genghis however didn't have specific Great Works with music audio though which might make her more unlikely than promoting a Great General.

    I'd expect maybe Haiti to go along with the Iroquois/Native American civ over Hawaii. They are another post-colonial civ but they are primarily francophone, a nation whose citizens are mostly African descent, and from the Caribbean who doesn't have a civ.
     
  7. sweetbrown89

    sweetbrown89 Chieftain

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2020
    Messages:
    70

    It always came down to Portugal or something new. They really got me good: probably would only have purchased Maya & Gran Colombia and Byzantium & Gaul if we had known the list.

    Disappointing, but not unexpected. Oh well. No reason to stick around, now. But at least there’s Humankind to satisfy a less Eurocentric history game! Kinda put the nail in the coffin for me, but of course there are plenty happy with the choice. Just seems too safe for a “New Frontier”.
     
  8. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    You mean the game that has both the Franks and Teutons in the Medieval Era in addition to Byzantines, English and Norseman in the Medieval? :p

    I mean I guess they don't have Portugal, but who needs them when you have the Dutch, Polish, Spain and Venice in the Early Modern. :mischief:

    Okay I'll stop.
     
    j51, DWilson, Meluhhan and 5 others like this.
  9. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2020
    Messages:
    3,314
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rouen, Normandy
    You mean the game that has the Russians, Austro-Hungarians, British, French, Germans, and Italians in the Industrial Era. :mischief:
     
  10. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    Well those are fine. The later you get in the game the more Eurocentric a historical game will be.

    My real complaint was I don't see the need for both Franks and Teutons in the Medieval Era. I think the Franks could have represented Western Europe just fine with the Byzantines for Eastern Europe.
     
  11. Duke William of Normandy

    Duke William of Normandy King of England & Unofficial Welcoming Committee

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2020
    Messages:
    3,314
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rouen, Normandy
    That makes sense.
     
  12. Birch617

    Birch617 Warlord

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2020
    Messages:
    185
    I think its cool the Teuton and Franks presence in Humankind but i do hope for the future more Cultures outside of Europe
     
    TahamiTsunami likes this.
  13. Zegangani

    Zegangani King

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Messages:
    619
    Gender:
    Male
    I noticed a Pattern in the Civ VI Change Depots on SteamDB: many of them contain the Base Game, XP1, XP2, DLC1 (Vikings), DLC2 (Poland) and DLC 5 (Nubia), but no other DLCs. I didn't dig deeper, so don't take this as reliable/proof.

    Does this mean that we're getting, for the smaller DLCs, balance/polish for Norway, Poland and Nubia only? And not for Macedonia, Persia, Australia, Aztec, Indonesia and Khmer? The Devs said that it's going to be only 2/3 of the Civs/Leaders, but that's just 1/3 of the smaller DLCs Civs. So perhaps Most of the Base Game Civs and RnF Civs will get rebalanced/polished.
     
  14. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    Norway is in the base game, not the Vikings DLC. It's the only DLC that didn't come with a civ, just city-states and natural wonders. :)
    Of course that means they could still get reworked if you are correct.
     
    679x, Kjimmet, Zaarin and 2 others like this.
  15. Zegangani

    Zegangani King

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Messages:
    619
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, you're right. How could I forget that?!!
    Maybe a Hope that the Scenarios will get some polish too (which would explain the Zombies)?
     
  16. PhoenicianGold

    PhoenicianGold Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2018
    Messages:
    1,828
    I mean, depending on how many civs in the base game and expacks are receiving updates, that could still amount to 2/3 of all the pre-NFP civs. Leaving out 6 of 42 civs still leaves a lot of wiggle room.

    If we look at those civs in particular, I can't really say either way. Australia is OP and I wouldn't expect it to get updates, but many have wanted some Khmer retooling. I think many consider Macedon a little OP/snowballing/gimmicky so that probably wouldn't need changes, and Indonesia and Aztecs seem pretty solid. But I think I've seen a few mention they wanted changes to Persia.

    I can't really say either way, but if that's what's on the SteamDB, it could very well be what we're looking at. I also would speculate that the civs most likely to receive changes are everything in R&F except Korea (which could still be nerfed) and Georgia (which has received a lot of buffs including the NFP mode), and most of the base game besides Sumeria. I suspect GS wouldn't have many updated civs because many are already asymmetric and gimmicky.
     
    j51 and Zegangani like this.
  17. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    Maybe similar to how Poland's scenario already had Janissaries as a unit maybe Basil II in the Viking's Scenario might get Dromons and Tagmas instead of quadriremes and knights.
     
    Zegangani likes this.
  18. Zegangani

    Zegangani King

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2020
    Messages:
    619
    Gender:
    Male
    That's true.
    Khmer and Persia are the Civs that many Players anticipated a balance/polish for them. But Aztecs could also need some polish, though.
    And For RnF, I really wish that the Science Power House Korea will get some nerf. I can't either play with it nor against it because it's too Science heavy.

    There is still some Time till April, so they might just have added the things they are finished with to the SteamDB Depots.
     
    j51 and TahamiTsunami like this.
  19. SMcM

    SMcM Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2016
    Messages:
    1,399
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London, England
    Well sure, but my point is the logic behind that was never sound, Siam should never have been viewed as simply the Civ 5 variant of Khmer.

    I don't suppose Joao III is too surprising a choice- him, Joao II and Manuel cover the period of Portuguese history in which representations of Portugal seem most likely to focus on typically. We've had Joao II previously, I don't know enough to comment on whether Manuel or Joao III would be a better choice.
     
  20. Alexander's Hetaroi

    Alexander's Hetaroi Deity

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Messages:
    7,416
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Texas
    I think the surprising choice is that they didn't go for a female leader, considering we've always had 3 in every other DLC/Expansion cycle. However I'm not complaining because Joao III seems like a good choice.
     

Share This Page