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[Eagle Pursuit]

In that case, there are some tangentally-political names from British modern history, like Wilberforce, Rhodes*, Beaverbrook.

But I think they would be foolish to overlook some of the 19th century/early 20th century Prime Ministers, like Palmerston, Disraeli, Lloyd George: big personalities all, and each with an entirely different set of 'agendas' to draw on for in-game abilities.

* = probably the most potentially inflammatory and controversial, given his Imperialistic Legacy.

I would adore seeing William Wilburforce in the game.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I would agree? Genghis is another leader that suffers from oversaturization for me, but I expect him to be in as Mongolia's default leader.

I doubt Kong defaults to Mongolia as a back-up option. I suspect he's Ming and Majapahit. Xerxes could default to Mongolia though, as per his First Look.

I just assumed Han could directly go into Ming or Mongolia, and then both into Qing.

We already know that Trung Trac is probably the default SEA leader so she would most likely lead to Majapahit as well. And of course there is Himiko also, though I'm not sure what her Antiquity civ would be?
I'm iffy on a Polynesian leader because I do feel like they might have made Himiko as a default Pacific Island leader (Majapahit, Hawaii, Meiji Japan), though I don't mind being proved wrong.

Speaking of oversaturation, I think a Youtuber remembered seeing Shaka as a leader choice, so maybe take that with a grain of salt? Though if we did get a Sub-Saharan African male leader, I'd go with Mansa Musa, but he might be similar to Amina in regards to resources and trading?

 

[Lord Lakely]

Shaka would fit my theory (a third African leader and male, also a huge personality without needing to add the very questionable Zulu faction), so I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up.

Would make another warmonger though. Augustus, Xerxes, Napoleon, Trung Trac, Amina, Genghis - it doesn't look like a peaceful crowd at the moment.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Shaka would fit my theory (a third African leader and male, also a huge personality without needing to add the very questionable Zulu faction), so I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up.

Would make another warmonger though. Augustus, Xerxes, Napoleon, Trung Trac, Amina, Genghis - it doesn't look like a peaceful crowd at the moment.

Yeah, unless they mistook him for Diplomatic Cetshwayo.

 

[Rac]

Ok... So, we got an ESRB rating that mentioned texts in game look to be leader descriptions. It could be other stuff but if indeed these are leader descriptions, well say hello to "a" Friedrich (likely "the Great", from Prussia) and presumably Catherine (also another "the Great", from Russia... that rhymed) to the roster.
So with that, earlier this last week we did got confirmation that the Crossroads of the World DLC collection will not have new wonders but natural ones instead, so the new civs in that collection will presumably use wonders already in game, thus allowing a lot of speculation again, so I'm bringing back these bets and putting it in "possble near DLC" category, both the ones based on wonders and the ones based on leaders (I know weaker claim, these would be Lạc, Yamato, Zhou, Florence, Hausa, and perhaps Zulu if Shaka is real), bescause being real honest who wouldn't want a matching civ for your leader you know? Also on that I'm putting the "civs" mentioned as stuff that could be added later in the first live stream explaning the civ swaping mechanic (these are Gauls, Franks, HRE/Teutons and England if I'm not mistaken).
And for sake of consistency, the probability of Germany being Prussia or vice versa is equal IMO, and I'm showing Alexander (that "the Great" again) since he was mentioned on Persia's description... And adding Macedonia in possble DLC for the despair of some in the forum because of that

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

And adding Macedonia in possble DLC for the despair of some in the forum

I believe you mean “delight”

I kid, Macedon is far from necessary…

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I believe you mean “delight”

I kid, Macedon is far from necessary…

Yeah, I don't see Macedon necessary, or likely, considering we can now just get Alexander the Great without the civ.
He would presumably work with a Persia>Mongolia>maybe Russia route just fine.

 

[Hellenism Salesman]

maybe Russia

What a funny way of spelling “North Macedonia”

(Dear Firaxis, PLEASE DON’T.)

 

[Xandinho]

I believe that these leaders without civilizations may imply their respective civs in the future.

I’m not sure if Trưng Trắc will eventually imply Luoyue, but at least Dai Viet. Machiavelli might imply Florence this time instead of Venice (so I’d finally get to see Santa Maria del Fiore in Civ).

 

[Ronaldo_]

Updated vanilla civ speculations after LOTS of community feedback from my original post. Knowing the limited amount of civs upon release, a lot of these will certainly be wrong but I still find these guessing games fun to do regardless, especially when the community is able to help contribute. As said before, hopefully we get Korea, and Portugal + Brazil in DLC eventually too.

 

[Giskler]

Forbidden City has been directly confirmed. It was shown in the Shawnee stream.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Forbidden City has been directly confirmed. It was shown in the Shawnee stream.

It’s likely the Ming’s wonder

 

[GeoGeo]

What's the source for Siam being confirmed?

Also, what's the basis for speculating Inca over Aztec? Besides Machu Picchu; any wonder could be there to keep the seat warm for future civs.

Finally, why Hawaii in the Exploration Age? I know Firaxis has played fast and loose with timelines, but Hawaii feels too logical a fit for Industrial given the history (Honolulu was even an "Industrial" city-state in Civ 6, though I'm not sure what the basis for that was). There isn't a more obvious candidate for a Polynesia Industrial Civ, plus Tonga is a clear fit for Exploration. All circumstantial evidence, of course.

 

[Zaarin]

What's the source for Siam being confirmed?

A screenshot labeled "Siam." I believe we've also seen Thai architecture.

Also, what's the basis for speculating Inca over Aztec? Besides Machu Picchu; any wonder could be there to keep the seat warm for future civs.

Macchu Pichu, the lack of any hint of the Aztecs whether wonder or unit or architecture, and I believe we've seen terrace farms, as well.

Finally, why Hawaii in the Exploration Age? I know Firaxis has played fast and loose with timelines, but Hawaii feels too logical a fit for Industrial given the history (Honolulu was even an "Industrial" city-state in Civ 6, though I'm not sure what the basis for that was). There isn't a more obvious candidate for a Polynesia Industrial Civ, plus Tonga is a clear fit for Exploration. All circumstantial evidence, of course.

We've seen Hawai'ian units and architecture in Exploration Age shots. I agree they seem like a good fit for modern, but I disagree about Tonga--Tonga's the only viable candidate for Antiquity. (They're a big stretch, but the boundary lines are clearly fuzzy. See also: Khmer and Mississippians.) TBH moving Hawai'i to modern would open up some interesting options in Exploration like Samoa, Tahiti, and Fiji, but I suspect we'll eventually see modern Māori.

 

[Ryansinbela]

Maybe we can have Maori for Modern

 

[Xandinho]

I’ve been thinking: Eleanor of Aquitaine would work much better as a leader for Civ7 than for Civ6. While she’s definitely an interesting personality to have in Civ, she didn’t quite feel like the leader of either France or England in the previous edition. In Civ7, however, she fits well as a powerful medieval queen who could represent any Exploration European civ, as she wouldn’t need to be the face of any specific civ. I feel like they should have saved her for her debut at this point.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I’ve been thinking: Eleanor of Aquitaine would work much better as a leader for Civ7 than for Civ6. While she’s definitely an interesting personality to have in Civ, she didn’t quite feel like the leader of either France or England in the previous edition. In Civ7, however, she fits well as a powerful medieval queen who could represent any Exploration European civ, as she wouldn’t need to be the face of any specific civ. I feel like they should have saved her for her debut at this point.

It's apparent now that Civ 6's multi-civ alt leaders, Eleanor and Kublai, are conceptual precursors of the detached leaders in Civ 7.

 

[TheGhostEnthusiast]

that last town name is unfortunately covered up, but we've got more city state crumbs! Source: Youtube short

 

[SeelingCat]

Pretty sure it's Si Thep, of the Mon people

 

[Xandinho]

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that last town name is unfortunately covered up, but we've got more city state crumbs! Source: Youtube short

Glad Moche is on their radar. I hope one day it gets promoted to a major civilization.