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According to Rachel Maddow its Kamala "you're not a racist, but" Harris
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(Obviously) Rachel Maddow isn't to be taken seriously. Does anyone actually expect Kamala to get more primary votes than Bernie?
Berzerker
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Biden's still the front runner and he's gonna be the nominee 
Does anyone actually expect Kamala to get more primary votes than Bernie?
Don't laugh. She was tied with him at 17% in the latest Morning Consult poll. She might be able to ride her good debate performances to build a "central" coalition in the democratic party. Almost no democratic primary voter would refuse to vote for her
I am not seeing that. She comes across as another corporate/establishment shill.
Btw, when will the first public votes actually happen?
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Everyone but Biden has a problem - they're competing with each other more than with Biden. Harris could change that dynamic a bit if she can cut into his support from black voters, but she was a prosecutor, a knight in shining armor on the front lines of the drug war. Biden tried to take advantage of that in their televised scuffle when he noted how he was a public defender, not a prosecutor. But that wont work, he was writing the laws she enforced.
edit: technically she was enforcing city and state laws, but they followed the federal lead in that war.
edit: technically she was enforcing city and state laws, but they followed the federal lead in that war.
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Berzerker
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lol, kinda like Papa Bush looking at his watch during the debate
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I could vote for that ticket, or make her secy of defense or state, the one that gets us into or keeps us out of wars
Socrates99
Bottoms up!
I don't know how fast his crash is going to happen. That bit where he cut himself off while trying to defend himself from Kamala's soul crushing dunk on him was pretty bad. It's never a good sign when the candidate says "Oh my times up..."
I'm curious to see if he loses people to Warren or Kamala. Warren has the next best name recognition behind Biden, other than Sanders, and I've seen news blurbs that say Third Way types are beginning to look at her as a compromise candidate. Not as bad as Bernie but still progressive enough to woo lefties. Kamala performed pretty well and she's a likely candidate to get any centrist support that bails on Biden. I still think the polls that had Biden with a double digit lead were slanted by under sampling the under 55 crowd. It's likely Bernie was neck and neck with Biden. If Biden falters it'll be between Warren and Bernie for top.
Gotta face it, outside of a small handful, most of the candidates are trying out for VP, a cabinet position or a contributor position on MSNBC. I wish there was a way to weed some of them out. Marianne Williamson looks like she is on a long acid trip, Swalwell seems to be desperately trying to point out how young and handsome he is, Hickenlooper and Delaney seem more concerned with telling everyone what cant be done, etc. Really, I can't wait 'til a few get so smoked in Iowa they have to drop out.
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Aren't Warren and Sanders & Harris and Biden in the same lane respectively? I'd expect the women to replace the men as the top shots in their lane when the men drop out due to age or unsuccessfulness. The vice presidential candidate will probably have to come from the other lane to show unity (see Obama and Biden?), so you want your guy to be able to do 8 years, and I simply cannot see that with Sanders, sorry.
Williamson is actually scary as she has the same position Trump had in the Republican primary, the clown one that doesn't adhere to the talking points. Fortunately, she has less support - for now.
Williamson is actually scary as she has the same position Trump had in the Republican primary, the clown one that doesn't adhere to the talking points. Fortunately, she has less support - for now.
Good that he isn't running for 8 years then
Warren has a bit of the "aunt" effect. Besides, in 2024 AOC will be able to run, so that lane will be taken.
I also like Tulsi. She even looks like she could be a leaderhead in Alpha Centauri
Socrates99
Bottoms up!
Same lane ideologically? No, Harris and Biden are centrists while Warren and Bernie are a little more left. The primaries are where our factions represent themselves since we can't seem to have a multiparty system like other places.
I think mitsho was saying Harris and Biden are in 1 lane, Warren and Sanders another, and that whichever lane the Pres candidate comes from the VP candidate will have to come from the other to have a balanced ticket.
Ofc balanced ticket only seems to come up when a leftwinger is doing well, 2 centrists run often enough without any complaints from the DNC or media about balance.
"Well, it has been something that they've done for a long period of time. I mean, you know, there aren't that many ways you're going to get people to schools...It is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools."
-- Trump, asked if he sees busing as a "viable way of integrating schools"
-- Trump, asked if he sees busing as a "viable way of integrating schools"
Did you expect him to know the connotation?
You'd expect him to have some concept of what something which has been debated in this country for the past 50 years means.
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