[RD] Daily Graphs and Charts II: Another 10,000 to come.

[Edmund Ironside]

A map of where Christians face the most persecution. I know this might be shocking for some conservative Christians here, but the USA doesn't crack the top 50!

Chart of where Christianity is growing fastest.

 

[Arwon]

Suspect that's more a map of antiproselytising laws, given it is coming from what appears to be a an evangelism focused organisation and the inclusion of countries like India.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Libya is so high up the list because of the abuse of migrants from sub-Saharan Africa trying to get to Europe. Libyans are Muslim and the African migrants are mostly Christian, therefore this is "Muslims abusing Christians".

The same thing is happening on the US-Mexico border every day. But it only counts as Christian oppression when it's being done by an external enemy. When America does the same thing Libyan warlords do we just call it "protecting our borders".

 

[Edmund Ironside]

Suspect that's more a map of antiproselytising laws, given it is coming from what appears to be a an evangelism focused organisation and the inclusion of countries like India.

To my knowledge Open Doors is purely looking to provide aid and support for Christians, rather then being evangelism focused.
"Open Doors is a non-denominational mission supporting persecuted Christians in the world."

Antiproselytising laws are probably a factor but the threats Christians face are undoubtedly much more then just that.

"Christians face harassment in 145 countries, Muslims face harassment in 139 countries, and Jews face harassment in 88 countries."

Religious persecution - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"Pervasive persecution of Christians, sometimes amounting to genocide, is ongoing in parts of the Middle East, and has prompted an exodus in the past two decades"

Persecution of Christians 'coming close to genocide' in Middle East – report

Millions uprooted from homes, says UK-commissioned report, with many jailed and killed

theguardian.com

Persecution of religious Minorities in India has been noted to be increasing for a while with the rise of the BJP.

"Anti-Christian violence in India is religiously motivated violence against Christians in India.[1] Human Rights Watch has classified violence against Christians in India as a tactic used by the right-wing Sangh Parivar organizations to encourage and exploit communal violence in furtherance of their political ends.[1] The acts of violence include arson of churches, conversion of Christians by force, physical violence, sexual assaults, murders, rapes, and the destruction of Christian schools, colleges, and cemeteries.[2][1]

Anti-Christian violence increased dramatically since the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) started its rule at the center in March 1998. The Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP), Bajrang Dal, and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) are the organizations which have been most frequently accused of inciting the violence.[1]

Hundreds of incidents of violence against Christians are reported by various organizations every year. India's ministry of internal security and its National Commission for Minorities (NCM) officially list more than a hundred religiously motivated attacks against Christians each year.[3]

As of 2020, the USCIRF placed India as Tier-1 in minority persecution along with countries like China, North Korea, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.[4]"

Violence against Christians in India - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Edmund Ironside]

Libya is so high up the list because of the abuse of migrants from sub-Saharan Africa trying to get to Europe. Libyans are Muslim and the African migrants are mostly Christian, therefore this is "Muslims abusing Christians".

The same thing is happening on the US-Mexico border every day. But it only counts as Christian oppression when it's being done by an external enemy. When America does the same thing Libyan warlords do we just call it "protecting our borders".

There certainly is likely some truth to this. As well as the fact Libya is a dangerous country for anyone currently regardless of faith or race.

This is the blurb Open Doors provides regarding the persecution seen there.

"Libya is effectively a lawless land where both native Christians and those passing through from other countries face extreme violence. With no central government to maintain law and order, militant Islamic extremist groups and organised crime groups both wield power. They target and kidnap Christians, and some believers have been killed.

If a Libyan from a Muslim background becomes a Christian, they are likely to face intense pressure and abuse from their family and the wider community to make them renounce their faith, or even be killed. Christians who publicly express their faith and try to share the gospel with others are likely to face arrest or retribution from extremist groups. The risks of being openly Christian are so high that it's almost impossible to meet up in groups for fellowship unless the whole family converts at once."

Libya is number 4 on the World Watch List

Libyan Christians have to keep their faith entirely secret, and churches for Libyans are forbidden. It’s illegal to share the gospel with Muslims, and Christians who publicly express their faith or share it with others risk being arrested.

www.opendoorsuk.org

 

[Arwon]

They've got Mexico on that list too because gangs

 

[Edmund Ironside]

That seems a little bit disingenuous, it was one of a number of reasons they gave.

I just thought the charts and graphs were interesting, and maybe even eye opening for some in the west who are not familiar with the challenges Christians face in other parts of the world (where the challenges are much more real then the "attacks on Christmas" Fox news always gets in a tizzy about every year). I choose to condemn persecution wherever I see it; whether it be against Christians, Muslims or others. I am sorry if others find these charts offensive or threatening to their world views.

Anyway i will say no more, as I just wanted to contribute something to this fine thread which I have enjoyed reading, rather than derail it!

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Christians are being oppressed and persecuted all over the world. It's a very real thing.

But in many places, the problem isn't that Christians are being oppressed *specifically* as Christians, it's because there's a terrible situation and Christians just happen to be there.

I don't want to argue with you, I just wanted to give you an alternative view.

 

[Edmund Ironside]

I feel like the rate of anxiety in the Ukraine should be much higher!

The Countries with the Highest Rates of Anxiety

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[Arwon]

It's 2019 burden of disease data

Mental Health

Mental health has a significant impact on people’s lives and wellbeing. To support people with mental illnesses, we need better data to understand them.

ourworldindata.org

Some of the difference would be about the data availability and diagnosis prevalence.

Also if you have anxiety disorder it's often unrelated to some objective measure of the stressors in your life, so it shouldn't necessarily follow that anxiety disorder prevalence would correlate with general quality of life.

 

[Lexicus]

Yeah, kind of part of the definition of anxiety disorder is that you're anxious for, like, no reason. Being anxious in response to a quasi-genocidal war would not be a disordered emotional response.

 

[Narz]

I feel like the rate of anxiety in the Ukraine should be much higher!

People are often less anxious (in the everyday sense) during war (probably because the solidarity you get from it outweighs the trauma & constant threat, which says a lot about the value of solidarity)

 

[Narz]

Yeah, kind of part of the definition of anxiety disorder is that you're anxious for, like, no reason.

Unless you have physical brain damage you aren't anxious for no reason. That's like saying someone is hungry for no reason (they may not need food, they may have metabolic problems caused by any number of issues or emotional problems causing them to seek food but it's not 'no reason')

It's just more profitable to blame the victim ('you're disordered') and then sell them drugs than fix the personal, social & systemic causes of the anxiety.

 

[Arwon]

Lol that's a terrible take dude

 

[Narz]

Anxiety happens for 'no reason' is a terrible take. Fortunately there are always reasons, unfortunately they're nuanced and hard to tease out.

If it 'just happened' w no cause we wouldn't expect it to be so unevenly disturbed

 

[Samson]

There is a concern that decarbonising the economy will require mining lots of lithium, cobalt, copper and other stuff, and this mining will have a cost. This is a chart comparing that mining, as projected in 2040, to today's fossil fuel extraction. It is quite big.

Spoiler Transitional mining compared to fossil fuel mining :

Source

 

[Kyriakos]

I feel like the rate of anxiety in the Ukraine should be much higher!
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The Countries with the Highest Rates of Anxiety

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Why so anxious in Holland? Is it proportional to height? ^^

 

[Narz]

There is a concern that decarbonising the economy will require mining lots of lithium, cobalt, copper and other stuff, and this mining will have a cost. This is a chart comparing that mining, as projected in 2040, to today's fossil fuel extraction. It is quite big.

Spoiler Transitional mining compared to fossil fuel mining :

Source

And some people still think we can maintain 8 billion people @ western standards of comfort... Not without some kind of energy revolution combined w a universal embrace of minimalism.

 

[Edmund Ironside]

The legacy of the East/West Germany divide:

 

[Samson]