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In any case, it's foolish for us to expect that we will encounter civilizations that are anywhere near our level of development - we've developed our civilization in the span of just 10,000 years or so, which is nothing compared to the billions of years of evolution on this planet.

It's still a bit puzzling that we didn't discover any sign of a civilization that's a couple of hundred thousand years beyond us.
I like to think we're just one fo the first intelligent species in this galaxy, but that's only likely if there's not that much life around.
 
Food for thought.

If "(hundreds of) thousands of years beyond us" is interpreted as economic/technological growth of the order of magnitude we have today, fundamental physics would mean that this would have to happen on scales and energy outputs way beyond the limits of a planetary body within a few thousand years, think Ringworld.

And stuff like that would be within the detection capability of todays telescopes.
 
Food for thought.

If "(hundreds of) thousands of years beyond us" is interpreted as economic/technological growth of the order of magnitude we have today, fundamental physics would mean that this would have to happen on scales and energy outputs way beyond the limits of a planetary body within a few thousand years, think Ringworld.

And stuff like that would be within the detection capability of todays telescopes.


That would depend on where it is. A 1000 light years, maybe we'll detect it. A million light years, I don't think so, not in the foreseeable future at any rate.

People have to keep in mind what a tiny part of the universe we have looked at so far. So far we have examined 1 grain of sand on the beach.
 
How does that make it useless or stupid? It's perfectly useful and entirely valid if you're interested in planets that can sustain life.

No, it's not, if Titan ranks as 70% as habitable as Earth :rolleyes:

You, however, seem only interested in planets that can sustain a "flourishing biosphere" -- which is even more stupid and useless.

No, that's what most people understand under habitable. I don't give a damn if some ball of ice can possibly sustain conditions that could allow some primitive single-cell lifeforms to arise, linger for a while, and then die out having evolved into nothing else.

There are clearly no planets or bodies in the solar system that are capable of sustaining a flourishing biosphere. That is demonstrably true - just look at the other planets. And finding evidence that a planet in some other solar system is capable of sustaining human life is basically impossible with current technology.

Which is why it is pointless to make "planetary habitability charts" at this point and take them seriously. In our Solar system, there are just a few places where we suspect some form of life might exist, and we don't know enough about any of the extrasolar planets to even assume anything.

A body that's capable of sustaining single-cell life, however, is well within the realms of possibility. And finding evidence to suggest that a planet is capable of sustaining this broader form of life is much, much easier. You might not find single-cell life particularly interesting, and you might only find studies useful or interesting if they find evidence for the existence of capable of sustaining human-like alien life, but science doesn't exist to satisfy your narrow interests.

Blah blah blah. I am sorry, but if you take seriously an index that's claiming that Gliese 581d is 0.05 points more habitable than Gliese 581c, than it's pointless to even debate this with you - it's obviously absurd.

"I think Zeus is 10 cm taller than Thor, prove me wrong!" :crazyeye:

It's still a bit puzzling that we didn't discover any sign of a civilization that's a couple of hundred thousand years beyond us.
I like to think we're just one fo the first intelligent species in this galaxy, but that's only likely if there's not that much life around.

Why? There could have been thousands of them, each having evolved in a very short (from astronomical perspective) timespan of several tens of thousands of years, and then moved beyond. There is no reason to assume they're extinct.

Our Galaxy is what, 10 billion years old? Our Solar System is only about 5 billion years old. I think the chance that we're the very first intelligent lifeform to evolve here isn't very high.
 
A good sign?

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Perhaps. Most of our losses are slot machines (which we call pokies), which exist in most pubs and clubs in most states and cause an absurd amount of addiction. How omnipresent are they in the US?
 
So, the stereotypical Australian is a white male surfer who drinks and gambles and speaks with a funny accent.

Gambling - check.

What about the other things?
 
Surfer?
 
Perhaps. Most of our losses are slot machines (which we call pokies), which exist in most pubs and clubs in most states and cause an absurd amount of addiction. How omnipresent are they in the US?


Illegal in most of the country. However many of those states are pushing to legalize gambling as a way of getting easy revenue for the states as well as a handful of badly paying jobs.
 
Huh, Outer Mongolia surprises me. Can anybody explain that?
 
I don't see Outer Mongolia on that map.....

That's because Outer Mongolia is a sovereign country and goes by the name 'Mongolia'.
Edit: Ah, sorry. Didn't notice this was a response to leoreth's mistake.

Now, on the topic on Inner Mongolia on the map: I think it's pretty rich in resources, and it has a very low population density which really helps to get higher position on and per capita rankings.
 
Huh, Outer Mongolia surprises me. Can anybody explain that?

No idea, but I'll guess - sparsely populated + mining? (It's "Inner Mongolia", BTW).

It's not that sparsely populated. There are 27million people living that.

It's probably because of the mining as Winner mentioned and it's importance to Beijing and Tianjin. I know that it's rich in a lot of mineral resources.
 
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