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[RD] Daily Graphs and Charts

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Winner, Dec 22, 2011.

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  1. SS-18 ICBM

    SS-18 ICBM Oscillator

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    You make moving sound easy.

    Is the message here that the US does not need to care about climate change? :mischief:
     
  2. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    That's relative damage, not absolute damage. The developed nations may be relatively better off, that doesn't mean well off. That is, the mass deaths will be where people are the poorest.
     
  3. cybrxkhan

    cybrxkhan Asian Xwedodah

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    Ultimately America still has way more resources and ability at its disposal to deal with climate issues compared to some random third world country.
     
  4. SS-18 ICBM

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    So essentially the chart's just repeating which nations are poor and which nations are rich. At least the results for New Zealand, South Korea, and Japan are interesting.
     
  5. KMRblue1027

    KMRblue1027 The Crown!

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    I figured it more about long term stability during escalation of climate change, the US has the room and resources to abandon the SW and still be OK but a country like Russia that's already economically and politically iffy likely would collapse from the strain, Japan and the various island states I guess would simply sink too far to remain stable.
     
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    Bingo!

    Bad map is bad.
     
  7. Ahovking

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    gay_Aleks communism will win.

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    Why the USSR has major trade breaks? WWII?
     
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    trade data is unavailable for Japan and the USSR ant points because these data needed was either wasn't recorded or have gone "missing'...Somehow i don't know how that one could be explained.
     
  10. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    So it's is more to do with their economy and how they can handle the situation. the richer the nation the better able they are to withstand the effects of climate. So why are we trying to stop poor countries from becoming rich?
     
  11. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Are you suggesting that the best way of dealing with pollution is by polluting more?
     
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    Algeroth 8 and 1/2

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    It was more than two years since some major summer forest fires in Russia, so I guess that people forgot that continental summer tends to be pretty awful, even in temperate climates. Plus, Russian South is a really dry place.
     
  13. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    We're not. That said, the US refused to ratify Kyoto (and thus limit its CO2 production) unless the poor countries also agree to. But, iirc, that was during a Republican Congress, so you're really asking them.

    The obvious answer is that the wealthier nations should be tampening down first. But, people will whine and whine and whine about the 4 tonnes coming from an Indian while they emit 19 tonnes.
     
  14. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    The governments of poor countries are the ones preventing poor countries from becoming rich. It's not on us.
     
  15. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    Colonialism might have just a wee bit to do with things.
     
  16. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Colonialism didn't help. And many other things didn't help either. But it's been more than half a century. And more than 100 countries haven't done jack poop economically since colonialism ended. Many have even gone backwards since then. So as terrible as colonialism was, you really have to ask why generations of post-colonial leaders haven't at all improved the situation.
     
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    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    ...Not sure if serious? :huh:
     
  19. El_Machinae

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    Well, there is the subsidies of local farmers drastically out-competing poor farmers. And there are Western based corporations lobbying for unfair mineral extraction deals in poor countries. So, it's not completely black and white.
     
  20. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    No. In many cases the developed nations are not helping. But you need only look to South Korea to see what's possible.
     
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