Do Italian Americans still face discrimination?

[yung.carl.jung]

By the way, since you do not live in the US, you also lack the cultural context to understand why my post is so funny. Fun fact: all of it consists of things I heard in real life or read on the Internet from the people of my demographic group, which makes it all the funnier tbqh.

too true! Us continentals wouldn't know what's goin on over the big pond!

 

[Patine]

By the way, since you do not live in the US, you also lack the cultural context to understand why my post is so funny. Fun fact: all of it consists of things I heard in real life or read on the Internet from the people of my demographic group, which makes it all the funnier tbqh.

too true! Us continentals wouldn't know what's goin on over the big pond!

Ah yes, the American equivalent lame, contrived, and flimsy take on the "you White Devils cannot possibly fathom the inscrutable mysteries of the Orient," trope of old. I don't think such cultural puffery fools anyone anymore, except maybe a fair number of Americans.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

Ah yes, the American equivalent lame, contrived, and flimsy take on the "you White Devils cannot possibly fathom the inscrutable mysteries of the Orient," trope of old. I don't think such cultural puffery fools anyone anymore, except maybe a fair number of Americans.

It's true, though. I have travelled enough to understand that what you see in the media is just the tip of the iceberg, and I have lived in several countries long enough to understand that it takes a long time to truly understand how people operate in that specific culture. That's why you won't find me going around and making sweeping remarks about what people are talking about in Spain—because I simply do not know.

You can read about quantum physics on Wikipedia, but it doesn't mean you suddenly understand quantum physics.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

too true! Us continentals wouldn't know what's goin on over the big pond!

By the way, I was browsing the forum and saw that you used the exact style of post that you criticized me for composing:

not according to the alt-right echochambers I subscribe to, no sir! in fact your beard is a product of phytoESTROGENS in your feminized soyfood you, uh, numale omega provider. I bet you wear flannel shirts and such.. that'll do

How come you aren't outraged at yourself at posting such content?

 

[Farm Boy]

Humor is harder to make work internationally than most things. There is a lot of pacing and context, implied non verbals, etc. Doesn't help that much of humor revolves around poking at human weakness, that's easily mistaken for mocking, being a tool, or being a dick. Lightly breaking manners can be deeply funny, and totally lost one family to the next

 

[Farm Boy]

I see. I haven't watched Aquaman, and I doubt I ever will. At this point Hollywood is just stamping out these super hero movies to make profits, and they are all the same. Which is really sad because I remember when back in the day those X-men movies felt really new and exciting, and now it's just whatever.

At least "Black Panther" tried something new like having a villain who was motivated by a noble goal and was somewhat redeemable, as opposed to "i want to destroy everything harr harr".

The changing nature of Hollywood's viewership actually plays in with the above point here. Humor and romance play hard globally. You want a AAA blockbuster anymore, it's gotta be exciting to germans, Chinese, and new yorkers. Going shallow is way easier than going deep.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

By the way, I was browsing the forum and saw that you used the exact style of post that you criticized me for composing:

How come you aren't outraged at yourself at posting such content?

I mean, yeah, you are 100% correct. if you really want me to dissect the joke, I'll go ahead.

first off, for a joke like this to work you need to achieve suspensions of disbelief. that means staying somewhat in character, not exaggerating too much (I know that is the point, but even with exaggeration there is a sweet spot), staying very true to the original language, perfect mimesis (imitation).

I thought yours was overdone, too over the top, too much "screeching". your parody of an SJW didn't sound like an outraged SJW, it sounded like a parody of an SJW. it sounded like what someone who is really disconnected from twitter/SJWism/the whole political correctness bs would think it would sound like. which made it unfunny.

is that too meta already for you, boy? watch this!

if you allow me to dissect the joke of mine that you quoted, I would also say that it's pretty unfunny. if I hadn't been sleep deprived I prolly wouldn't have posted that, seems a lil contrived in retrospect. my quality control sensors didn't kick in.

it's fundamentally different from your joke, however, as it is a meta-joke: it is a parody that self-identifies as a parody, and implicitly declares itself as a bad parody: a "humble", self depricating joke. but it didn't work. either my parody wasn't bad enough, or I made it too obvious that it's self-deprecating, I ain't sure yet.


yes, I've taken a seminar on how to explain jokes. judge me.

 

[Farm Boy]

It's ok Karl, we sort of know to expect it from Germans.

 

[adcarrymaokai]

I mean, yeah, you are 100% correct. if you really want me to dissect the joke, I'll go ahead.

first off, for a joke like this to work you need to achieve suspensions of disbelief. that means staying somewhat in character, not exaggerating too much (I know that is the point, but even with exaggeration there is a sweet spot), staying very true to the original language, perfect mimesis (imitation).

I thought yours was overdone, too over the top, too much "screeching". your parody of an SJW didn't sound like an outraged SJW, it sounded like a parody of an SJW. it sounded like what someone who is really disconnected from twitter/SJWism/the whole political correctness bs would think it would sound like. which made it unfunny.

is that too meta already for you, boy? watch this!

if you allow me to dissect the joke of mine that you quoted, I would also say that it's pretty unfunny. if I hadn't been sleep deprived I prolly wouldn't have posted that, seems a lil contrived in retrospect. my quality control sensors didn't kick in.

it's fundamentally different from your joke, however, as it is a meta-joke: it is a parody that self-identifies as a parody, and implicitly declares itself as a bad parody: a "humble", self depricating joke. but it didn't work. either my parody wasn't bad enough, or I made it too obvious that it's self-deprecating, I ain't sure yet.


yes, I've taken a seminar on how to explain jokes. judge me.

I must admit I wasn't able to decipher the majority of your post and did not understand the point you were trying to communicate, but if you posit that either your or mine post was written in a "SJW" character, that is factually incorrect. Your post was written from an alt-right perspective, and mine was written from an upset white man perspective, and both of these groups hate SJWs with a passion. So my post wasn't a parody of an SJW, but of a person who hates SJWs... and at this point I can't help but wonder if you understand what "SJW" stands for and who these people are in the first place.

it sounded like what someone who is really disconnected from twitter/SJWism/the whole political correctness bs would think it would sound like. which made it unfunny.

My post was precisely written to sound like it was from someone who is disconnected from "political correctness". Seems like I achieved my goal, even if you misinterpreted my intentions.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

but your caricature of the SJW-hater/Defensive White Dude (tm) is himself an SJW, because the anti-SJW is, qua definition, also an SJW, everyone who fights for their specific idea of social justice (especially on the net) is the fact that he is on the opposite site of the political spectrum is irrelevant for that. "SJW" doesn't mean obese left-leaning body acceptance 3rd gender xenofeminist tumblr-user, or whatever buzzwords float around in alt-right echochambers right now, my friend! behaviours attributed to supposed SJWs, like the beloved screeching which I mentioned, you'll find with alt-rightists, too, especially wrt "degeneracy". the "upset, defensive white man" archetype fits neatly into the SJW trope.