Do US Republicans want a failed state?

[Estebonrober]

I'm sure you haven't. Stick with Hygro, he can reveal the secret of how Keynes solved money. You'll be rich!

More empty wit from Naskra! I'm sure r/wallstreetbets is missing this charmer.

 

[Estebonrober]

What were Clinton and Biden's votes on that issue?

Oh ffs Patine when I vote for someone like clinton or biden its agains. . .you know what no not getting pulled into this garbage again

 

[Patine]

More empty wit from Naskra! I'm sure r/wallstreetbets is missing this charmer.

I'm pretty sure he had an account on another gaming forums where politics are often discussed I've mentioned being on on these forums from time to time. I'm pretty sure it was him, too.

 

[Patine]

Oh ffs Patine when I vote for someone like clinton or biden its agains. . .you know what no not getting pulled into this garbage again

The real garbage can is that you have real choice in your political leadership and are cheated at the ballot box - but you don't want to admit that THAT is a big part of the problem, and needs to change, and won't change as long as the corrupt Duopoly as a whole is in full power, comfortable in power, unchallenged, and not called to task for their corruption, crimes against their own, breaking the laws that government the political leaders, abdication of their mandate of office, violation of their oaths of office, and TREASON and SEDITION against their own nation and people! But you, like so many others, are still convinced the problem is partisan, and be solved at the ballot box after another drink of blue or red Kool-Aid. The divide and conquer tactic that accompanied the bread and circuses tactic that keep this corrupt regimes that was long overstayed it's welcome firmly in power obviously has you hook, line, and sinker, like so many others. When you support your nation and your people and the vaunted principles your nations was based on, and NOT the Democratic Party of the United States against the Republican Party of the United States - the "lesser of two corrupt traitors?"

 

[tuckerkao]

The Republicans want to reopen their states up as fast as possible, it's likely the gambling on whether corona-virus will re-surge or not.

 

[Naskra]

'm pretty sure it was him, too.

Is anyone else following you around? If more than three, see a doctor.

 

[Patine]

Is anyone else following you around? If more than three, see a doctor.

I don't need a medical advice from you? Who takes anything (dis)HonestAbe - err Naskra - says with any credibility or legitimacy...

 

[Naskra]

Patine, I have never done anything for you or to you other than advise you to clean up your writing style. Others on this forum have done the same. Perhaps Mr. Abe has also. It's good advice, just listen.

 

[Kaitzilla]

The Republicans want to reopen their states up as fast as possible, it's likely the gambling on whether corona-virus will re-surge or not.

Florida and Georgia have seen a small decline in new cases since reopening so far.

 

[Patine]

Patine, I have never done anything for you or to you other than advise you to clean up your writing style. Others on this forum have done the same. Perhaps Mr. Abe has also. It's good advice, just listen.

And telling me what authors to read and which not to read, and my viewpoints are total and complete crap, but yours are infallibly and unquestionably accurate and not to be challenged by lesser minds like mine and most on others on these forums, and subtly insulted me at several points (as first shots, not repartee to an already launched insult), and, now, psychiatric advise, etc...

 

[tuckerkao]

Florida and Georgia have seen a small decline in new cases since reopening so far.

Texas sees the spikes of new cases for 7 consecutive days, there are always winners and losers from the risky bets.

 

[Hygro]

Everyone: Cambridge is like 50 miles from London. The Bay Area, largely considered one metro, is bigger across. I suppose it’s different in every country, after all the Netherlands is not one city, but as geographic gaffs go, by all means level this as my great intellectual error

@Naskra continues to never make a coherent argument, only the allusions to some great beyond. He does this well. As someone always seeking to know more and know if I am wrong (indeed the lowest hanging fruit of knowledge), and as Naskra largely posts on my topics of interest, I am quite vulnerable to his charms and until this thread, have said only positive things while waiting for him to one day open up. He won’t even list the readings I would need to read for him to get started. Fool me... can’t get fooled again ...


Keynes, by the way, was rich, and was so as an investor. Still, the best gunsmiths are not the best hunters, and programmers of video games don’t make pro gamers of them. The application of Keynesian economics did make America rich, but nowhere does anyone seek to learn it is their optimizing source of personal wealth.

You are sooo screwed...

It's political though, theories ate picked because they are convenient for those doing the picking. You think though that Krugman is genuinely naive? I always put it down to him knowing the hands that fed him. I may be generalizing from the many many "public intellectuals" and "opinion makers" here. Some may be genuine fools only...

I think it’s largely cognitive dissonance. Bigger winners like Friedman might couch their language to fit a team, but don’t make gross economic errors to protect their positions.

I think Krugman keeps going toward post-Keynesianism because it’s logic makes his brain itch and he can’t leave it alone, but keeps slipping because his biases distract him.

 

[Ajidica]

None of these militant policies and ideal are remotely Christian. They don't follow, or adhere to, Christian principles or doctrines, or the Ministry of Christ, really at all. They are instead wolves in sheep's clothing amongst the flock and a parasitic cult led by false prophets. Please, do not confuse with Christians, to the point of calling them Christians, or, even worse, reverting back and assuming the actual Christian religion is based upon this crap.

Did you even bother reading my post and the context in which I was talking about the Christianity of the abolitionists? Or are you saying religious opposition to slavery and a desire to bring about the equality of all men is not part of Christianity?

 

[Azem.Ocram]

I don't need a medical advice from you? Who takes anything (dis)HonestAbe - err Naskra - says with any credibility or legitimacy...

¡Escándalo!

Keep up the great work!

 

[Patine]

Did you even bother reading my post and the context in which I was talking about the Christianity of the abolitionists? Or are you saying religious opposition to slavery and a desire to bring about the equality of all men is not part of Christianity?

Christianity, by proper doctrine in the Ministry of Christ, just isn't militant by nature at all, despite appearances and actions of many who claim to follow the religion.

 

[Gorbles]

All of this may indeed be true (but see my point I'm about to make below about jurisdiction and reading too much into the value and significance of FEDERAL elections in the U.S. in these matters), but, IDEALLY it should be that be that simple, and chronically unemployed factory and coal mine workers should have turned out en masse in 2016 to vote for a party they blame moreso for their unemployment and destitution for the rights and protections of various disadvantaged communities (I think "community," is a preferable word to the more absolutist "demographic," or "minority," that's been pushed around here, because the term "community," allows context to be taken into account) when Trump makes "sugar daddy," promises of bringing jobs back home to them (they had no idea, at the time, they were going to fall threw). But, unfortunate, it may be too much to expect of long-unemployed people used to blaming Democrats for their employment predicament (and Clinton showing a cold apathy for the region, on the campaign trail) to nonetheless show such support for social ideals of the Democratic Party from a human (though not humanist) and realistic perspective. Does this at all make sense?

Now, the jurisdiction thing. Other than rulings of the Supreme Court of the United States, the FEDERAL Government of the United States has very limited real power in the LBGTQ and racial based policy and law-making (SURPRISE!). It's the State Governments who have almost all of those powers. And the State Governments are always a patchwork of Democratic and Republican leadership, with Jack Coghill, Jesse Ventura, Angus King, Lincoln Chafee, and a few other Governors in my lifetime having other political labels. The Civil Rights Act and Voter Rights Act of the 1960's were just enforcing the negligently lapsed and unenforced 14th Amendment rights (very much out of malice, racism, authoritarianism, and a show of White Supremacy, definitely) of African-Americans in the Deep South, rights they held for over 100 years by that point ON PAPER. It was not new rights legislated for them - just a means of enforcing grossly (and deliberately) neglected rights they had all along. In fact, the only four legislative or executive actions by U.S. Federal (and not State) Governments, and not Judicial review, that directly affect the LGBTQ community by sweeping policy are this:
-Don't Ask, Don't Tell - Bill Clinton
-Defense of Marriage Act - George W. Bush (which, like every significant government action of the Bush Administration in every meaningful area, exceeded it's legal and Constitutional bounds into the realms of high criminal and tyrannical endeavour)
-Dropping the Federal Government's defending of DOMA altogether during a Supreme Court challenge over the Constitutional guarantee of same-sex marriage - Barack Obama
-Baring Transpeople form serving in the military, specifically - Donald Trump
The lion's share of realistic lawmaking power in these areas is in the State, not Federal Governments - despite what so many are convinced of...

What you're saying makes sense, except that you're forgetting about SCOTUS, which is directly impacted by both a Senate majority and the current POTUS. Which now has Kavanaugh amongst its associate justices. I don't see a bright future for LGBTQ rights in the US (and / or a variety of other rights) with an increasingly Republican (and increasingly) hardline SCOTUS bench.

This is a large part of what people fear (well, that and Trump continually packing the lower courts as well).

 

[hobbsyoyo]

McConnell has refused to take up additional action on Covid but has recalled the Senate to continue pushing through unqualified partisan hacks to the courts. Regardless of how the general election turns out, we will be dealing with the effects of this slow motion coup for decades.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Everyone: Cambridge is like 50 miles from London. The Bay Area, largely considered one metro, is bigger across. I suppose it’s different in every country, after all the Netherlands is not one city, but as geographic gaffs go, by all means level this as my great intellectual error

This one will run and run

 

[Hygro]

This one will run and run

Frankly I see no compelling evidence for why the whole of southern England isn’t the London metropolitan area

 

[Farm Boy]

Cost to travel?