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EDCNs (Expanded Dynamic Civ Names) new thread
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Hippo8085
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Suppose this means I'll need to add this now. Currently I am liking Several States as it appears in many documents from the early history of the United States, but would like to hear a few more opinions first.
Islam Tamil : Ma'bar Sultanate
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... wait... Several States of America sounds like a joke...
Hippo8085
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Do you know if it would be better as Ma'bar Sultanate or Madurai Sultanate? I like the latter mostly because I get a redirect on the link.
Yeah, I don't know that there is a quality name for this, so I may just make a slot and leave it as United States of America in case something better comes along. I might also use Leoreth's suggestion or yours if you would like to make one.
In other news, I will start to try and find generic vassal names for those civilizations which do not currently have them. This means like Khanate for Mongolia or Viceroyalty for Spain, making something identifiable with that civilization in each case. Currently all listed will give a Protectorate of ___. Suggestions welcome and needed, can also be for regions.
Needed for (bold indicates a priority):
Egypt/Respawn, Babylonia,
Obviously some of these will be very difficult if not impossible. As long as it is shared by at least two real life vassals, preferably in game, I will use it. I will reiterate that regions are fine and that protectorate is the default for all, so if it isn't better than that, which is almost nothing, it will not be used.
Again I will try for a 48 hour from now release, hopefully with no hiccups this time.
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Egypt: Province of (Province of Canaan)
Respawn: Tributary of (Tributary of Sudan)
Babylonia: Colony of (regional colonies are mentioned in a Babylonian history book)
India: Janapada of (Indian for foothold of tribe)
Respawn: Tributary of (Tributary of Sudan)
Babylonia: Colony of (regional colonies are mentioned in a Babylonian history book)
India: Janapada of (Indian for foothold of tribe)
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I would like the generic vassal names to be unique for every master, and Province is already used by Rome. The Indian one is good though.
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Stiiilll, Province is better than Protectorate :/
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What about when Mongols adopt the name of "Yuan Empire", vassalized China named "Southern Provinces", while Mongols adopt other names such as Chagatai Khanate or Timurid Empire, vassalized China named Yuan Khanate?
Hippo8085
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I believe Zhou & Shang Kingdom respectively should be appended to Zhou Dynasty & Shang Dynasty.
Also, an Indian vassal of Japan should be: Azad Hind
For Russia, <insert civ> Soviet Republic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Republic
I realize this is Communism specific, but I have few other leads at the moment and I am making a note of this.
Also, an Indian vassal of Japan should be: Azad Hind
For Russia, <insert civ> Soviet Republic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Republic
I realize this is Communism specific, but I have few other leads at the moment and I am making a note of this.
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Not an actual region called the "Tributary of Sudan", but the Muhammad Ali dynasty collected a lot of tributes.
Perhaps another name would be the Egyptian Fellaheen of _____, which means Egyptian peasants of ____.
Hippo8085
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Will do both.
Edit: Actually the Chinese names follow the format of the others, the other dynasties being empires. These two were considered kingdoms rather than empires, so I will keep as is, or give a little wording change.
I don't want to do this one mostly because it is basically already in for when Russia is communist. Will be interested to see what comes of the leads.
In general I have two problems with this:
1. Respawn means the Medieval - Renaissance, not Muhammad Ali era or later.
2. Refers to internal groups or groups only associated with other things, not directly the government. Depending on time I will also put some effort into finding something.
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derp, wrong thread.
Hippo8085
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New revision up with following changes:
Ma'bar Sultanate now appears for Tamils from medieval era until 1850
Added Azad Hind as name for India when a vassal of Japan
Default vassal name for India now Janapada of ___
Added city state name slot for America
Added Small definition for number of cities
Italy now appears as Kingdom of Italy when at or above 4 cities and Italian Empire when at or above 6 when not running city states, democratic, fascist, or communist civics
Ma'bar Sultanate now appears for Tamils from medieval era until 1850
Added Azad Hind as name for India when a vassal of Japan
Default vassal name for India now Janapada of ___
Added city state name slot for America
Added Small definition for number of cities
Italy now appears as Kingdom of Italy when at or above 4 cities and Italian Empire when at or above 6 when not running city states, democratic, fascist, or communist civics
Hippo8085
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A new 48 hour alert. I guess I don't have any heavy projects for this time like the previous two versions, so will be doing a bit more of my own research. The request for specific generic vassals still stands with following civilizations:
Egypt/Respawn, Babylonia, Phoenicia/Carthage, Tamils, Ethiopia, Korea, Maya/Colombia, Vikings, Tibet, Khmer, Indonesia, Moors, Holy Rome, Russia, Mali, Poland, Inca, Italy, Aztecs/Mexico, Mughals, Thailand, Congo, Iran, Prussia, Argentina, Brazil
I'll also try to change the China as a vassal of Mongols situation. Currently there is a system where when China is a vassal of Mongolia, it will always be called Southern Provinces and Mongolia will always be called Yuan Empire, regardless of capital. Mongolia is also called Yuan Empire if China is dead. System seems kind of wrong, I plan change it to Mongolia only being the Yuan Empire if its capital is in China, with China being called Yuan Khanate if vassalized to Mongolia if this is not the case, Southern Provinces if it is.
I wish I could put more of my own effort into looking up names for this right now but real life is extremely busy right now, so it goes as it goes. I think it will ease up a bit in the next two weeks so expect larger updates.
Egypt/Respawn, Babylonia, Phoenicia/Carthage, Tamils, Ethiopia, Korea, Maya/Colombia, Vikings, Tibet, Khmer, Indonesia, Moors, Holy Rome, Russia, Mali, Poland, Inca, Italy, Aztecs/Mexico, Mughals, Thailand, Congo, Iran, Prussia, Argentina, Brazil
I'll also try to change the China as a vassal of Mongols situation. Currently there is a system where when China is a vassal of Mongolia, it will always be called Southern Provinces and Mongolia will always be called Yuan Empire, regardless of capital. Mongolia is also called Yuan Empire if China is dead. System seems kind of wrong, I plan change it to Mongolia only being the Yuan Empire if its capital is in China, with China being called Yuan Khanate if vassalized to Mongolia if this is not the case, Southern Provinces if it is.
I wish I could put more of my own effort into looking up names for this right now but real life is extremely busy right now, so it goes as it goes. I think it will ease up a bit in the next two weeks so expect larger updates.
DC123456789
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Perhaps make Mongolia "Northern Yuan Dynasty" if their capital is in Mongolia (i.e. Karakorum), China is alive and respawned, and the year is after 1350 (so if Mongolia gets kicked out of China, as they did historically)?
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