There is a name for it I just don't remember it. Often in scriptures a physical description is given to describe a spiritual attribute of God. As God rested, His eyes goes to and fro among the earth, creation is His finger work, the arms of God, He got the whole world in His hands,etc.
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Ziggy Stardust
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Metaphor?
I get the whole metaphor bit, and it would work too as an explanation to me. It just stops working when Creationism insists that the metaphor of God creating the world in 7 days (well, 6 actually) is fact. If one insist that on day 1 he creates Heaven and Earth, 2 the beas and the birds, etc, At that moment, you cannot fall back on, "yeah, the last day bit is a metaphor". How do you determine whether what happens the first 6 days is not metaphorical as well? Just doing so, because otherwise we'd have a problem with God resting is not it.
Agreed. To say that the bible is in part metaphor to avoid being cut down in argument, then to claim that the metaphors are fact, is stupid
BasketCase
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Why are you assuming God doesn't need rest to begin with??? Again, the idea that He is perfect and all-powerful is something we came up with.
Wehn somebudy makes a bunch of tipografikal errers in a post, it's not a problim with the CFC web sight. It's a problem with BasketCase's typing.
Ziggy Stardust
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Yeah, that what you think, and that's what I think. Yee olde Bible writers which were many, weren't concerned about the credibility of the ancient myths they were copying. There weren't many people around to criticize the content.
But when 1.500 to 2.000 years after the fact people claim Genesis is fact, well, it needs some explaining
Smidlee has an, in my opinion, accurate explanation. It's just a (collection of) stories. But I'm not sure if that's what he meant to say, so I'll wait whether he confirms my reply to him.
classical_hero
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For a pattern for how we should live our lives. He gave us the 7 day week so that for six days we work and one day of the week is left for resting from work. This is explained in the Ten Commandments. God did not "need" to rst, he could have done everything in one day, but he chose to do it that way.
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Why not 5 days of work and 1 day of rest?
7 is a good number; I can't remember why
Because it fits so nicely into 365 days.
I think that it's because there were 7 planets that the ancients could see, and that there are four lots of 7 days from full moon to full moon.
You forgot Earth and The Sun (which they considered a planet)
Sun & Moon. It's why Mohammed thought there were seven heavens, too.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Alright, rephrase question. How does an entity which is outside of time, and which does not get tired by definition, rest?
If we dealt with this question, I'm going into God being happy, sad, angry, etc
Yuri2356
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Alright, rephrase question. How does an entity which is outside of time, and which does not get tired by definition, rest?
If we dealt with this question, I'm going into God being happy, sad, angry, etc
Suppose he doesn't rest because he is tired, but instead because he is done?
Genesis2 said:
There was no world building left to do, so he declared it a holiday and left it at that.
Simple Simon
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your post makes it sound as if he should rest for the rest of time..... but no, he had some people to kill and towns to raze, and , oh, that turn-into-salt thingy. Yep, sounds like he is really 'resting from work', not 'has finished work', I'd say! Which, btw, fits nicely with the non-omniscient, non-prescient, very human OT god.
Huayna Capac357
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EDIT: Nevermind.
If there is a god, then to portray him as a human places limits on him, which would be against the whole nature of Him, so any attempt to describe him in human terms can only, at best, describe one aspect of him. The passage, therefore, is an analogy; his 'creative' side rested for one day, since his work was complete. That's my 2p.
Simple Simon
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And how do you then explain all the vile, brutal, immoral stuff god does throughout the OT?
Would it not be smarter to simply accept that the entire bible is simply stuff written by humans alone, and thus (humanely) wrong, instead of wrapping this position into a theoretical musing on a special aspect of god's god-ness, just so that you can inject him (or her, you Sexist Pig?
) into the process of text creation?And why do you assume that people who wanted to write that 'his creative side rested' (why, btw? and why only then, and not forever? cause afterwards god didn't really create much, did he?) were too dense to actually write 'his creative side rested'?
And how do you then explain all the vile, brutal, immoral stuff god does throughout the OT?
Personally, I don't - to me, the evil in the world proves that there is no God. However, for there to be a Coventry Cathedral there must be Nazis; there can be no Good Samaritan without a gang of thugs. Without evil, there would be no good.
Would it not be smarter to simply accept that the entire bible is simply stuff written by humans alone, and thus (humanely) wrong, instead of wrapping this position into a theoretical musing on a special aspect of god's god-ness, just so that you can inject him (or her, you Sexist Pig?
As I said, you can't describe a God in anything, because to do so places limits on him. The bible is written by humans, as an attempt to explain a fiendishly complicated idea.
And why do you assume that people who wanted to write that 'his creative side rested' (why, btw? and why only then, and not forever? cause afterwards god didn't really create much, did he?) were too dense to actually write 'his creative side rested'?
It's an analogy. To write in terms of aspects would have looked like polytheism, which was banned. Hinduism does that, and you get a lot of them who believe in lots of gods, which is not the point.
Simple Simon
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Amen, Flying Pig! Chalk up two points for me for the assist.
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