Evolution versus Creationism

[classical_hero]

Alright, rephrase question. How does an entity which is outside of time, and which does not get tired by definition, rest?

If we dealt with this question, I'm going into God being happy, sad, angry, etc

There are numerous reason why one would rest and being tired is not necessarily the main reason for rest. You can rest from work to admire what you have done. God did not rst because he was tired, but as I said before it was for our benefit so that we can work for six days and rest on one day. Also on the 7th day God blessed that day and sanctified, o God was making that day different from all the other days when he did work. God make the 7th day different and made it ia holy day, that is what sanctified means. This is the term we get our word holiday from, holy day, since thoe days were the only days you could get time off work.

@Simple Simon. So were the people that God killed good or evil?

 

[Flying Pig]

God, if he is there, kills people without a logic.

 

[peter grimes]

God did not rst[sic] because he was tired, but as I said before it was for our benefit so that we can work for six days and rest on one day.

Well, that's just so supremely arbitrary... I mean, based on this logic I'd say that god is a sadist, because I'd be much happier if he rested for 1/2 the week, so I could actually get some things done on the weekends

 

[Flying Pig]

Ever hear of the three-day week?

 

[Perfection]

There are numerous reason why one would rest and being tired is not necessarily the main reason for rest. You can rest from work to admire what you have done. God did not rst because he was tired, but as I said before it was for our benefit so that we can work for six days and rest on one day. Also on the 7th day God blessed that day and sanctified, o God was making that day different from all the other days when he did work. God make the 7th day different and made it ia holy day, that is what sanctified means. This is the term we get our word holiday from, holy day, since thoe days were the only days you could get time off work.

@Simple Simon. So were the people that God killed good or evil?

On a related subject is your arm still broke or are you just avoiding your own creationism thread?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=305661

 

[Flying Pig]

It's closed, and ended up as a 'shoot the creationist' festival

 

[Simple Simon]

@Simple Simon. So were the people that God killed good or evil?

- if they were evil, then because god made them evil.
- unborns and newborns are not evil period. Your god, however, obviously is evil, if I read his book literally, as you seem to advocate.

 

[Yuri2356]

your post makes it sound as if he should rest for the rest of time..... but no, he had some people to kill and towns to raze, and , oh, that turn-into-salt thingy. Yep, sounds like he is really 'resting from work', not 'has finished work', I'd say! Which, btw, fits nicely with the non-omniscient, non-prescient, very human OT god.

All of which happened after god's day off, during which nothing of consequence occurred.

 

[Simple Simon]

All of which happened after god's day off, during which nothing of consequence occurred.

yeah, so?
seems god is indeed extremely human, having to rest from hard work, so that he has energy left to smite a few poor souls he himself made fallible in the first place.

you can call it whatever you want, I call it mean. And human. And thus anything BUT omniscient and omnipotent.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Suppose he doesn't rest because he is tired, but instead because he is done?

There was no world building left to do, so he declared it a holiday and left it at that.

There are numerous reason why one would rest and being tired is not necessarily the main reason for rest. You can rest from work to admire what you have done.

Alright, I'll just chalk this one up as ambiguous use of the word: "rest".

God did not rst because he was tired, but as I said before it was for our benefit so that we can work for six days and rest on one day.

Does that mean that not working on Saturday is not what God intended and religious people should only have a one day weekend?

God admires his own works?

 

[Perfection]

God looked at me and said, "it is good!"

 

[civ_king]

God looked at Perfection and saw perfection in his\her\it's work

 

[GoodGame]

I looked at this thread after about page 10 and also said, "It is meh".

 

[Phlegmak]

- if they were evil, then because god made them evil.
- unborns and newborns are not evil period. Your god, however, obviously is evil, if I read his book literally, as you seem to advocate.

I haven't been following the thread.

I saw the above, and I thought to add something. As a former Catholic, I was taught that Original Sin existed and it's the sin that Adam committed. Newborn babies inherit this sin.

For a sin to be a sin, the sinner must know he's sinning. (For example, a guy who accidentally runs over a kid with his car hasn't sinned; a guy who deliberately runs over a kid with his car has sinned.) Since Adam didn't know what evil was before he ate the apple from the tree, he couldn't possibly have known he was sinning.

Therefore, original sin does not, and cannot, exist.

I'm sure I convinced no one, even though I'm correct.

 

[Flying Pig]

That's good theology, but I think that the point is that people knew what sin was, but didn't have the will to do it, before the Fall. It could just be that God isn't a rational, calm sort of guy - all those damnations must have an effect on him.

 

[Phlegmak]

Actually, the whole creation story including Original Sin is completely nonsensical.

 

[Flying Pig]

True. The idea is possible (that all people are sinful), but not the story

 

[Lone Wolf]

Therefore, original sin does not, and cannot, exist.

I heard the interpretation that God was angry at Adam and Eve so much, because they were trying to shift the responsibility on others after eating the apple. Adam blamed Eve, and she blamed the snake.

 

[Simple Simon]

I haven't been following the thread.

I saw the above, and I thought to add something. As a former Catholic, I was taught that Original Sin existed and it's the sin that Adam committed. Newborn babies inherit this sin.

For a sin to be a sin, the sinner must know he's sinning. (For example, a guy who accidentally runs over a kid with his car hasn't sinned; a guy who deliberately runs over a kid with his car has sinned.) Since Adam didn't know what evil was before he ate the apple from the tree, he couldn't possibly have known he was sinning.

Therefore, original sin does not, and cannot, exist.

I'm sure I convinced no one, even though I'm correct.

I fully agree, and take this a step further: for sin to exist at all, the concept must exist. Thus, god inherently created it, setting a trap for man. Thus, god is the original sinner.

 

[Smidlee]

I haven't been following the thread.

I saw the above, and I thought to add something. As a former Catholic, I was taught that Original Sin existed and it's the sin that Adam committed. Newborn babies inherit this sin.

For a sin to be a sin, the sinner must know he's sinning. (For example, a guy who accidentally runs over a kid with his car hasn't sinned; a guy who deliberately runs over a kid with his car has sinned.) Since Adam didn't know what evil was before he ate the apple from the tree, he couldn't possibly have known he was sinning.

Therefore, original sin does not, and cannot, exist.

I'm sure I convinced no one, even though I'm correct.

Eve was deceived but Adam wasn't , He may have not experience evil yet but he knew he was disobeying God. The Sin was not the very action of eating the apple it was the decision he made before he ate it. The second Adam (Jesus Christ) also did not know evil (he knew of evil) yet decided to do the Father's will before He went to the cross to bore the sins of the whole world.