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birdspider
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hi, I just wan't to mention that we have OOS in round 69 with Patch H, we didn't OOS yesterday (~300) with patch G
Just installed the patch (vista, fully patched FfH2 .33 G, & BTS 1.17) and now I can't start a game at all. I can get into the program, select my team, and get as far as the game initiation screen and it crashes while putting the game together.
Only things I can think of are that I had sicons or partia installed (was working fine with the last patch, but doesn't show up on the selectable civs now) and also the Jotnar mod installed. I haven't been running the jotnar mod though (have modual loading set to 0 in my ini file) since it wasn't set to run with FF .42 and it wasn't causing me any problems. I can still run plain FfH2.33 so it must be something with FF.42
Does anyone have any suggestions other than deleling my FF file and re-installing?
Oh, and nice color design on the small amount of the UI I could see, the organges make for a nice rich visual feel.
Never mind! just fixed it by updating the patch for sicons of partia. Sorry to waste your time
Only things I can think of are that I had sicons or partia installed (was working fine with the last patch, but doesn't show up on the selectable civs now) and also the Jotnar mod installed. I haven't been running the jotnar mod though (have modual loading set to 0 in my ini file) since it wasn't set to run with FF .42 and it wasn't causing me any problems. I can still run plain FfH2.33 so it must be something with FF.42
Does anyone have any suggestions other than deleling my FF file and re-installing?
Oh, and nice color design on the small amount of the UI I could see, the organges make for a nice rich visual feel.
Never mind! just fixed it by updating the patch for sicons of partia. Sorry to waste your time
xienwolf
Deity
Hopefully it was a connection issue. If they become constant/regular make sure to let us know, and include any details you can about the gamestate at the time.
Unfortunately the best guess I can make is that there is an issue with one of the files they modified and we have not. If it refers to something that was overwritten, then thigns go bad quick. I do know from accidentally installing the patch to the wrong directory myself that the patch is playable without the base 042 or even a copy from FfH 2033 (though I am sure an issue would have eventually arisen).
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
The graphical effect from building the Dies Diei really doesn't look right, imho. It doesn't look like a revealing light at all, but like a ugly yellow haze that ruins the colors of almost everything.
Skitters
Prince
Just had my very first FF or FFH ctd. Playing the Austrin, and attempting to re-equip a warrior
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edit - this with patch H
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edit - this with patch H
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[to_xp]Gekko
QCT junkie
a suggestion for the next version: flavourmod-wise, the mazatl should really start near mount kashekk imho. 
one minor issue: divided souls spawned by the sidar's hunter replacement don't seem to have the button for "auto-explore" , which makes them a pain to micromanage.
one minor issue: divided souls spawned by the sidar's hunter replacement don't seem to have the button for "auto-explore" , which makes them a pain to micromanage.
Vehem
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Thanks - this one is reproducible too.
Code:
STACK_TEXT:
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
0013fe24 0207cd28 3d532298 020c8b8b 45704c10 CvGameCoreDLL!CvSelectionGroup::isBusy+0x3
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 CvGameCoreDLL!CvSelectionGroup::isBusy+0xc78Not sure what changes have been made to SelectionGroups - Xien, did you say you were trying to allow groups that were partially blinded/charmed to split and reform as appropriate?
Bit of an elusive one here. Similar to a problem the base FfH had with Forests and promoting for a brief time - we've been trying to track it down. On the plus side, it's somewhat rare and only requires you to select a different unit and then click back - still very irritating though.
Have you got a save for this specific instance?
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
I've got to say, I love the new interface. Nice job
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I've got to say, I love the new interface. Nice job
Artwork wise it's SeZereth's work - had several versions, but I do really like this one.
Atnanor
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I have the same problem, I was hoping patch H would fix my earlier problem. But yeah, now I can't even start up a game.
xienwolf
Deity
Yeah that CtD is repeatable for me as well, and due to my "cure" for the AI stopping their entire stack when immobilized.
Turns out that the method I used is only used in one other place in all of the code: In Unit Death. It clears the unit from any group (thus assigning it to a group of just itself), then tells it not to lead the new group (so it is now in a leaderless group).
So anytime that the newly non-grouped, non-lead unit is active, Crash.
On the upside, it did clear up the issue with the AI freezing their entire stack
They killed my test Ratha before getting to the turn of the one Orc I froze and crashing my game. I have it fixed for the next patch, till then, don't use any spells with a delay timer, or select event options which immobilize a unit. (or cast an Immobilizing spell obviously)
EDIT: Fixed (non-crashing) version has the AI managing to split their stacks and attack appropriately)
Turns out that the method I used is only used in one other place in all of the code: In Unit Death. It clears the unit from any group (thus assigning it to a group of just itself), then tells it not to lead the new group (so it is now in a leaderless group).
So anytime that the newly non-grouped, non-lead unit is active, Crash.
On the upside, it did clear up the issue with the AI freezing their entire stack
They killed my test Ratha before getting to the turn of the one Orc I froze and crashing my game. I have it fixed for the next patch, till then, don't use any spells with a delay timer, or select event options which immobilize a unit. (or cast an Immobilizing spell obviously)EDIT: Fixed (non-crashing) version has the AI managing to split their stacks and attack appropriately)
Perkin Warbeck
Chieftain
I agree... I need to turn this off-- I feel like I'm polluted or something! It's enough to make me change civs-- how do I turn it off? Is it just me that doesn't like this?
oh just so I don't sound ungrateful-- I love everything else I'm seeing but I've been trying the Elohim out again since they've been changed-- those changes in particular I adore, Vehem do you plan to give them any other bonuses for other unique landmarks? I know you may feel it's overpowered but it's very rare to get more than one or two that make a difference in a game- it would be nice if more gave even a minor bonus for reaching them/having them within cultural borders... since you made these changes I regularly use Devouts to explore the world and find the sacred places
birdspider
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well, we overcame the round 69 oos with save and load, BUT after playing till ~ 230 and saving, we tried to continue today, but it OOSed within 5 rounds from load, no save/load magic
we're using a openVPN connection which proofed to be ultra-stable over the years
Vehem
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Any more feedback on the Glow/Shadow effects? Not looking too popular so far so I'm considering turning them off in the next patch (until we have chance to rework them a little), but I'd like to hear a few more opinions before doing so...
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