Fascists Riot in Virginia

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And why is it no-one likes Jewish people again?

I seem to have forgotten.

Is it their habit of winning Nobel prizes?
They were the Christ killers and worthy of good old fashioned Catholic hatred for many hundreds of years.
 
Depends on what you're looking at. In terms of ideology, no, the right is clearly worse in my opinion, especially the group of the right that we saw on this specific protest, as many of them see to indeed be Nazis, or at least heavily racist people with fascist tendencies.

In terms of "who started the fights" though, yeah, the extremists of the left certainly have a worse track record than those on the right.
It's an impoverished soul that takes greater offence at scuffling than at calls for genocide.

They were the Christ killers and worthy of good old fashioned Catholic hatred for many hundreds of years.
"Catholic" seems a puzzling qualifier, here, given that the Orthodox and Protestant churches have supplied some of history's most enthusiastic Jew-haters.
 
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"Catholic" seems a puzzling qualifier, here, given that the Orthodox and Protestant churches have supplied some of history's most enthusiastic Jew-haters.
In the beginning...there was one church. I do agree that both Orthodox and Protestant churches turned against the Jews in big ways. I would suggest that they learned that from the original mother church which I have labeled "Catholic". I would be happy to change my post to read:

They were the Christ killers and worthy of good old fashioned Christian hatred for many hundreds of years.
 
Am I the only one relieved the person killed was a white person instead of a black person? No death is good of course, but I think this is a better outcome. Nevertheless, I am dismayed by what is happening in this country. It seems racism is getting worse, and I believe internet is to blame for this.
 
Muslims weren't big fans of Jews either, last time I checked.
Specifically anti-Jewish sentiment is relatively new in the Muslim world. Historically, they were lumped in with Christians and other non-believing monotheists, and generally fared a little better than Christians because they weren't singled out as the proxy or scapegoat of foreign or invading powers.

Am I the only one relieved the person killed was a white person instead of a black person? No death is good of course, but I think this is a better outcome.
If nothing else, it does leave all their rhetoric about "white genocide" and "white lives matter" ringing very hollow. You can't credibly claim to be the defenders of white America when you spend your time killing and maiming white Americans.
 
Am I the only one relieved the person killed was a white person instead of a black person?
Sounds incredibly racist to me, but you're surely not the the only one thinking that way!
 
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And why is it no-one likes Jewish people again?

I seem to have forgotten.

Is it their habit of winning Nobel prizes?
I know why people hated them in medieval times but I honestly couldn't explain why its persisted.
 
He did. And non-lethally.

But I'm not sure what having clean hands has got to do with price of fish. Or loaves of bread.
 
But by 600 AD the Italian Romans were gone and blaming them wasn't very useful. The Jews remained and blaming them was.
 
Depends on what you're looking at. In terms of ideology, no, the right is clearly worse in my opinion, especially the group of the right that we saw on this specific protest, as many of them see to indeed be Nazis, or at least heavily racist people with fascist tendencies.

In terms of "who started the fights" though, yeah, the extremists of the left certainly have a worse track record than those on the right.
this has to be the most naive thing i've seen someone post on this forum. do you even know what nazis espouse?
 
Jews are the eternal liberals who temper and allow fascist governments to prosper.

Take away the liberal factor and all you have left are warmongering fascist.

Christians are your socialistic left until in power, and then they switch to right leaning fascist.

The reason why A Christian would despise socialism or liberalism in any form is the humanistic fear of not being in control of one's own existence.
 
Jews are the eternal liberals who temper and allow fascist governments to prosper.

Take away the liberal factor and all you have left are warmongering fascist.

Christians are your socialistic left until in power, and then they switch to right leaning fascist.

The reason why A Christian would despise socialism or liberalism in any form is the humanistic fear of not being in control of one's own existence.

This seems unlikely somehow.
 
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See, here's the problem. There are in fact fascist movements active in the US and killing Americans. But the Republicans will do nothing about it, because the Republicans need their votes. And far too many Republicans, starting with Trump, are on their side.

The problem with the "anti"-racists or "anti"-facists is that they are completely racist. And that is the reason no one listens to them. I have never seen them hold an antiracism demonstration against Isis. In fact, they even try to downplay the ethnic cleanings, slave markets & terror attacks. What I do have seen them display is conspiracy theories, diversion or even overt happiness about 9/11 or similar attacks.

Where are the people who hold balanced views? Where are the guys who say: Sure, Isis is racist, we should hold an antiracism demonstration against them? You simply won't find them. Their antiracism or women's rights demonstrations are selectively and solely directed against western countries. They never criticize anyone else. It is directed against Israel, not Hamas, against America, not Isis, against Europe, not Erdogan.

The problem is that they are not honest. They don't care about racism, or women's rights or facism. They never did. In fact, they are perfectly fine with it & even support it - as long as it is directed against western, "capitalist" countries.
 
Early Christians did not blame either Romans or Jews for killing Jesus, but rather those "who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not but are liars." When Church Fathers like Justin Martyr repeat such accusations, they clarified that they are referring to the Sadducees. (This makes sense, as in the gospels the Pharises debated Jesus more but then Sadducees tried to trap him. The high priest and others involved in the conspiracy to have him executed were definitely of the Sadducee faction, who did not believe any afterlife or Resurrection was possible ) Modern Judaism (and Christianity for that matter) grew out of Pharisaism. There aren't any Sadducees left to hate. (Some might try to argue that the Karaites are their descendants, but they are pretty different.)
 
The problem with the "anti"-racists or "anti"-facists is that they are completely racist. And that is the reason no one listens to them. I have never seen them hold an antiracism demonstration against Isis. In fact, they even try to downplay the ethnic cleanings, slave markets & terror attacks. What I do have seen them display is conspiracy theories, diversion or even overt happiness about 9/11 or similar attacks.

Where are the people who hold balanced views? Where are the guys who say: Sure, Isis is racist, we should hold an antiracism demonstration against them? You simply won't find them. Their antiracism or women's rights demonstrations are selectively and solely directed against western countries. They never criticize anyone else. It is directed against Israel, not Hamas, against America, not Isis, against Europe, not Erdogan.

The problem is that they are not honest. They don't care about racism, or women's rights or facism. They never did. In fact, they are perfectly fine with it & even support it - as long as it is directed against western, "capitalist" countries.

Another strongly projecting post! He throws accusations of conspiracy theories even as he implies that all anti-racists and feminists are in a conspiracy against western countries.

Never mind that he hasn't bothered doing basic google searches.
 
Christians are your socialistic left until in power, and then they switch to right leaning fascist.

Interesting statement. Which countries ?

In my country, the christian centre parties lost during the 60-70ies their compassionate youth to the progressive parties (all libertarian & leftish) and the remainder was the conservative right wing that lost further voters to the neo-liberal rightwing.
 
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