nzcamel
Nahtanoj the Magnificent
He's talking about veteran civs, i.e., regular appearance in the series.
The alt leader only works if it's Constantine, imo. You can't make Justinian/Theodora an alt of Rome.
Of course you can. Justinian/Theodora were Roman as far as they were concerned; even if we can see how the Empire had morphed somewhat by then.
As to regular appearances in the series they're both pretty even:
Iroquois: Civ 3 vanilla, Civ 5 vanilla
Byzantium: Civ 3 2nd XP, Civ 4 2nd XP, Civ 5 1st XP
If you consider that in Civ 4 the Native American "civilisation" covered the Iroquois, then they've appeared as often as each other, and the Iroquois have appeared first each time.
Are the Iroquois called the "Romans of the New World?" Never heard of that before. I'm not meaning to diss the Iroquois at all as they would still be my 2nd Native American pick under the Navajo.
I thought the Inca were the Romans of the New World...
No disrespect to the Iroqois, but as a casual, I am not really sure what would make them substantially different from say, the Cree.
Yes, it's a YouTube history video, probably with a few missteps (though I do like that Extra Credits do have an extra episode at the end of each series highlighting any mistakes they made); but you get the drift in easy to digest 10 min clips. I call the Iroquois -or rather the Haudenosaunee- Romans of the New World due to their advanced constitutional arrangements. And yes, of course I'm comparing them to the Republic, not the Empire