General Politics Three: But what is left/right?

[Kyriakos]

from the Biden news conference...the president of Mexico? I understand this stuff from seeing the aging of family members and frankly I have done this myself. I think it is shameful to disrespect Biden because of this but it is not going to get better and while I do not think he has reached the point that his judgement has been grossly impaired we all have to realize that point is coming and it not in anyone's best interest for that to occur in the Oval Office. Plus, we can't look into his head and recognize when such a moment has come. We can see the frustration and the reports of his temper and language all point to the same conclusion.

I watched the entirety of the Tucker Carlson interview of Vladimir Putin and it is sobering to think of either of the major candidates havng to match wits with Putin and Xi. We are not in a good position.

^Hm, the video on youtube got over 5 million views in half a day. It's a 2 hour long interview.

 

[Core Imposter]

Putin is so much more impressive than any candidate we have to choose from. Which doesn't touch his honesty or morals which may be freely debated. He is an intelligent, educated, and capable man. Half of my life, almost, has been lived after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and Putin's version of that history clearly has major elements of truth. I can easily picture myself in his shoes making many of the same decisions. Which shows he has woven a plausible narrative that paints the West in harsh terms that I cannot deny I largely agree with.

Still, I recognize him as the enemy of my people with all that entails. When people in our country express favorable thoughts about Putin it should be understood that one can respect an enemy while endeavoring to drive a stake through his heart. Woe and wailing that he exists and our leaders are forgettable characters of obscene puppet shows.

 

[Tee Kay]

I watched the entirety of the Tucker Carlson interview of Vladimir Putin and it is sobering to think of either of the major candidates havng to match wits with Putin and Xi. We are not in a good position.

the way the Western system works our head of state doesn't have to "match wits" with their head of state. It's designed to avoid that happening as much as possible.

 

[Core Imposter]

the way the Western system works our head of state doesn't have to "match wits" with their head of state. It's designed to avoid that happening as much as possible.

Of course you are right. It's the head of our elitist unelected deep state overloads whoever they are that makes all our decisions. As JFK found out the hard way(maybe).

 

[Gori the Grey]

It's the head of our elitist unelected deep state overloads whoever they are that makes all our decisions.

No. It's not one "head," alternative to Biden. It's diplomats. They're well-known figures. They've generally worked a lifetime in a particular region, and have extensive area expertise. Congress has oversight and can and does question them any time they want. Tee Kay's got it exactly right, and it's the reason for preferring Biden between the two options on offer. Trump always wants to cast international relations in the single-man-matching-wits format. Biden's content to step out the way, let people know what they're doing sort through delicate matters and step in to be the ceremonial head signing the final result.

 

[Kyriakos]

The Biden statement and subsequent questions by the press did get very ugly.

 

[Farm Boy]

Putin is so much more impressive than any candidate we have to choose from. Which doesn't touch his honesty or morals which may be freely debated. He is an intelligent, educated, and capable man. Half of my life, almost, has been lived after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and Putin's version of that history clearly has major elements of truth. I can easily picture myself in his shoes making many of the same decisions. Which shows he has woven a plausible narrative that paints the West in harsh terms that I cannot deny I largely agree with.

Still, I recognize him as the enemy of my people with all that entails. When people in our country express favorable thoughts about Putin it should be understood that one can respect an enemy while endeavoring to drive a stake through his heart. Woe and wailing that he exists and our leaders are forgettable characters of obscene puppet shows.

One can respect a soldier. Respecting a lying warlord in an hidden armored train is a sign that one should not be respected.

 

[Kyriakos]

I'll watch the new JS episodes ^^

 

[Farm Boy]

I would say Truman's more pressing concern was the enormous rising empire that bald-faced "there should be no national borders under our ideology" while attempting to drastically expand their national borders. The NSA, the branch of the government in perpetual war, wasn't created for the Zionists. It was created because of the USSRs, stated and acted upon, goals of global conquest. North Korea is still there, structured as it is. It's still a useful artillery factory for offensive war, too.

 

[Lexicus]

I would say Truman's more pressing concern was the enormous rising empire that bald-faced "there should be no national borders under our ideology" while attempting to drastically expand their national borders. The NSA, the branch of the government in perpetual war, wasn't created for the Zionists. It was created because of the USSRs, stated and acted upon, goals of global conquest. North Korea is still there, structured as it is. It's still a useful artillery factory for offensive war, too.

While closer to correct that all that antisemitic nonsense you were responding to, this is just the US propaganda explanation; in reality the US goal was (and is) also world conquest, and the USSR was seen as the main impediment to that. Communism was of course always seen as a major threat to the European empires whose mantle the US inherited after Japanese and German victories in 1939-1942 broke the power of the old imperial states. US policy & strategy starting c.1942 was explicitly for a US-led global order (today referred to as "the rules-based international order").

 

[Farm Boy]

Didn't say it wasn't. Said why. Though, you will need to note who lead the most extensive decolonization effort the world has perhaps ever seen, despite it definitely not being 100% pure. That whole nasty business with the land war in Asia.

But, if I have to make a choice between the two to parse right for you, I will.

 

[Joij21]

While closer to correct that all that antisemitic nonsense you were responding to

It's not antisemitic. Its no wonder why we have such a powerful executive branch.

Just look at what Israel is doing to Gaza.

Remember I said Zionist, not Jewish. It's not antisemitism for calling out Israel's genocide.

But of course I'll probably be censored, so you know. Got to keep it "family friendly" here.

 

[Farm Boy]

That's in the structure. Some of the norms track to the Civil War. Our executive branch doesn't fall and reform every time one of its initiatives fails in the legislature. Our legislature itself throws out failing votes all the time. Over which the executive wields a personal voice equal to at least ~16% of each whole chamber's votes(what it takes to override him).

 

[Joij21]

No. It's not one "head," alternative to Biden. It's diplomats. They're well-known figures. They've generally worked a lifetime in a particular region, and have extensive area expertise. Congress has oversight and can and does question them any time they want. Tee Kay's got it exactly right, and it's the reason for preferring Biden between the two options on offer. Trump always wants to cast international relations in the single-man-matching-wits format. Biden's content to step out the way, let people know what they're doing sort through delicate matters and step in to be the ceremonial head signing the final result.

Yeah and what's the cost of that strategy? A bunch of hyper specialized sophists who report to one man who then needs to have a mental capacity to execute proper praxis.

Having a bunch of separate jigsaw pieces don't make a full puzzle. Who parses over the entirety of this dataset? That's right no one.

The focus of the United States should be more insular, we are simply too overstretched and the executive branch has far too much bloat and power.

 

[Estebonrober]

Someone on Biden's staff should have stopped the presser, that was jsut politically stupid. They are so concerned about optics they forgot to keep Biden off camera...

Minus the Genocide Joe thing stopping me from voting for him, last night's Biden is the wet paper bag I voted for and would vote for again over any GOP moron. Alas my states is going 60% Trump and makes my vote irrelevant on that front but the last couple of weeks really do show how **** the Democrats are, first they cave on immigration and they think they won the optics(all they did was concede the entire issue), then Biden proves the point about his age (the hack promised to only do one term lol I know I know).

Yeah and what's the cost of that strategy? A bunch of hyper specialized sophists who report to one man who then needs to have a mental capacity to execute proper praxis.

Having a bunch of separate jigsaw pieces don't make a full puzzle. Who parses over the entirety of this dataset? That's right no one.

The focus of the United States should be more insular, we are simply too overstretched and the executive branch has far too much bloat and power.

You're still falling for the one man to make the decision error, Presidents are only allowed to decide the irrelevant stuff atm. Until the CIA is neutered (which will require a constitutional crisis), the President is basically a cheerleader...imo

 

[Estebonrober]

Of course, on the other hand instead of senility we can get more of these types of guys in direct control of the levers of power. Bad enough they still wield so much power no matter what.

 

[Lexicus]

Didn't say it wasn't. Said why.

No, you didn't. You gave the propaganda reason. The reason the US wanted to dominate the world was not to dominate the world was not to save it from the USSR, but to create the situation described in this article:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/american-consumption-habits/

 

[Estebonrober]

Well since it didn't belong in the Russia/Ukraine thread I guess....

It still should be acknowledged. The Right wing in the US is pro this kind of reactionary behavior and they like Putin.

 

[Lexicus]

It's easier to go without notes when you're making a lot of it up

 

[Birdjaguar]

Putin is 10 years younger than Biden and the ten years between 70 and 80 can bring about significant changes. Nonetheless, Biden is too old as is Trump.