[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

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Yes, they are as entitled to a fair trial as anyone else. I’m just kind of tired of people making excuses for them; the looters and the arsonists are simnot victims.


I’m just trying to follow the things here. Person A commits a crime against Person B. Person C feels outraged and steals a TV. The two criminals here are A and C. The only victim is B.


Fair point! Still would argue the looters and rioters aren’t very good citizens to begin with, and I suppose it’s good for all of us they aren’t in command of anything more than street violence.


You have an overactive imagination re: my motivations.


What of yours will you burn? Sorry, you can’t loot yourself since that’s a zero-sum game.

Edit: bungled the quote tags, twice, and clarified a sentence

burning down a police building seems perfectly fine as a protest. I personally have. A thing about property destruction but as things continue to deteriorate and billionaires continue to print money for themselves I am more and more coming to @Phrossack and @Lexicus ’s conclusions that violence is inevitable.

how much of this is sustainable? How can you justify this? All the electronic distraction in the world is not going to spare the wrath of the beaten and hungry.
 
A young black boy can hold a toy gun and get shot to death by the cops, but an older white woman or white man can open carry assault rifles and be treated by the police as any other civilian, even though the latter is infinitely more intimidating than the former ever could be.

A white person's life, regardless of socio-economic status, is worth more than a black life, even if wealthy, even if middle class and the police do everything they can to reinforce that system and no amount of reformation changes that demonstrable fact.
 
I certainly support his firing at the very least. His jailing, that’s for the courts to decide and he should be given a fair trial. Based on what I know now, I would vote for conviction.

But the crimes you said in your post were for instigating arson, which is a stretch. Instigating arson would be going out and telling people to burn down buildings.


Nothing to hide! I’m anti-bum and pro-worker. The looters and rioters are bums; the people that work for a living aren’t going out and smashing windows and stealing stuff.

I saw a woman with boxes of fudging cereal as “loot”. Ffs if we are at that point in the US we are ina. Lot worse position then I thought.
 
As a general rule, people in the productive ranks of society do not go around ransacking businesses and start buildings on fire.

As evidence, I would like to cite the entire history of civilized society.


Well, let’s get the names of these model citizens, upright and outstanding members of society, so that we can pin medals on them for their liberation of a shopping cart of Ding Dongs and Ho Hos. For they are the real heroes.

this is so historically ignorant I’m surprised you posted it.
 
burning down a police building seems perfectly fine as a protest. I personally have. A thing about property destruction but as things continue to deteriorate and billionaires continue to print money for themselves I am more and more coming to @Phrossack and @Lexicus ’s conclusions that violence is inevitable.

how much of this is sustainable? How can you justify this? All the electronic distraction in the world is not going to spare the wrath of the beaten and hungry.

I would start with some tubes of 60 seconds Loctite, applied in seconds into locks of police cars, motorbikes, police stations etc.

No need to escalate into alienating yourself with the people at large
 
Nevermind that people probably weren't looting out of choice, but more likely because they could NEVER afford some of those items and out of necessity when it comes to food, but Amadeus thinks these people are bums, so that tells you all you need to know about his politics.

He knows why people are rioting, he knows the reason behind them and he doesn't seem to get it though, he can't quite make the connection between the systemic racism in policing and why african-americans in particular are willing to riot, he just thinks they are bums because they've decided to do one of the few things they have left open to them; violence.

This will happen again, as it has done in the past, but the stance will remain the same because they don't have any answers beyond maintaining what we already have.
 
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Nevermind that people probably weren't looting out of choice, but more likely because they could NEVER afford some of those items and out of necessity when it comes to food, but Amadeus thinks these people are bums, so that tells you all you need to know about his politics.
"We are so angry about police brutality and indifference we are going to riot."
Also:
"Let's trash a public library and loot a Target. That'll show them!"
 
I understand totally. They want TV, they take TV.

Now that the police are busy dealing with everything else going on, the risk:reward ratio has dropped to the point where the would-be thieves become just regular thieves.

how can you not see that the tone of “the would be thrives” is overtly racist ?
 
But have you considered the media's liberal bias??
 
just asking, who here thinks he intended to kill the man?
I think it was to inflict injury but not to kill. (but I wasn't there)

Still think drastic punishment is required.
 
just asking, who here thinks he intended to kill the man?
I think it was to inflict injury but not to kill. (but I wasn't there)

Still think drastic punishment is required.
I too put a body's weight of pressure on a man's neck without considering any consequences despite years of training. Could happen to anyone, even despite multiple repeated protestations from the man whose neck I was kneeling on.
 
just asking, who here thinks he intended to kill the man?
I think it was to inflict injury but not to kill. (but I wasn't there)

Still think drastic punishment is required.

I think you need trained experience in these actions to be able to know how far you really can go... and even then... not every victim is the same regarding lung health condition. People die also from such diversity with torturing, waterboarding.

I guess this cop was untrained. But IDK ofc.

Then:
The victim is saying: "I cannot breathe"
The cop is then saying: "You're a tough guy... a tough guy huh"

In a for that cop non-threatening situation, that cop was too busy with being dominant with his own ego to be able to act professionally.
For such people there is never place in functions where you have to apply physical control.or physical threats.

Now.. is that conscious intent to kill ?
I think not
Is it willfully ignoring the possible warning signals that he should stop ?
I am afraid so...
 
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