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German multicultural society "has failed" -- Chancellor Merkel

Its funny how everybody is talking about how Europe hates it's Muslims and that it is a continuation from hating jews etc...

But what about the sikhs/hindus/asians who are now accepted? Muslims have only themselves to blame for there failure to intergrate into Britain when we compare it to other ethnic groups.

We just got to wait for Islam to reform itself before we let any more of them in.
Of course, that also puts a few holes in the side of the assimilationist position, because those groups have achieved just this integration without assimilating into a European monoculture, as, indeed, have many if not most Muslims. Those Muslims who resits integration are guilty of exactly the same monolithic tendencies as the native reactionaries are, they are simply unable to falsely present their monolith of choice as an established norm.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
And here I was thinking that you were an Englishman, and then you go spouting continental nonsense like this. :p
 
Wait a minute...Germany was founded as a multi-cultural society...German Multicultural Society has failed... :hmm:
 
Maybe a more accurate term is a: multi-civilisational(??) society? :hmm:
 
they have not assimilated?
No, they have integrated, which is distinct. The former would imply that they have fallen into step with the native norm, while the latter merely implies that we have found grounds for peaceful co-existence and cultural exchange.
 
No, they have integrated, which is distinct. The former would imply that they have fallen into step with the native norm, while the latter merely implies that we have found grounds for peaceful co-existence and cultural exchange.

They haven't integrated either - no self-respecting colonist would.
 
PAT BUCHANAN Is Europe’s adventure in international living about to end?

At Potsdam, Germany, this weekend, Chancellor Angela Merkel told the young conservatives of her Christian Democratic Union that Germany’s attempt to create a multicultural society where people “live side by side and enjoy each other” has “failed, utterly failed.”

Backing up her rueful admission are surveys showing 30 percent of Germans believe the country is overrun by foreigners. An equal number believe the foreigners come to feed off German welfare.

Merkel had in mind the Turks who came as gastarbeiters, guest workers, in the 1960s. Some 2.5 million now live in Germany.

Arabs and East Europeans have come more recently. One survey puts the Muslim population at 5 million.

“Multikulti is dead,” says Horst Seehofer of Merkel’s sister party, the Christian Social Union of Bavaria. He wants no more immigration from “alien cultures.” Turks and other Muslims are not learning the language, he contends, not assimilating, not becoming Germans.

Awareness of deep differences with Turkish neighbors became acute for Germans when, grieving in solidarity with America after 9/11, they learned that Turkish sectors of Berlin were celebrating Islam’s victory with barrages of bottle rockets.

Like all of Europe, Germany grows nervous.

This summer, Thilo Sarrazin, who sat on the Bundesbank board, published “Germany Abolishes Itself,” which sold 300,000 copies in seven weeks. Sarrazin argued that Germany’s Muslim population is intellectually inferior and unable or unwilling to learn the language or culture, and mass immigration is destroying the nation.

No rightist, but a stalwart of the socialist party, Sarrazin was forced out at the Bundesbank. Half his socialist party stood by him.

Across Europe, there is a resurgence of ethnonationalism that is feeding the ranks of populist and anti-immigrant parties that are gaining respectability and reaching for power.

Austrian nationalists triumphed in 2008 when the Freedom Party of Joerg Haider and the Alliance for the Future of Austria together took 29 percent of the vote. The Swiss People’s Party of Christoph Blocher, largest in Bern, was behind the successful referendum to change the constitution to outlaw minarets and prohibit the wearing of burqas.

Hungary’s Jobbik Party, which to the Financial Times “sits squarely in Europe’s most repulsive arch-nationalist tradition and which blames Jews and Roma for the hardships of other Hungarians,” pulled 17 percent of the vote this year and entered parliament with 47 seats, up from zero seats in 2006.

The Sweden Democrats just captured 6 percent of the vote and entered parliament for the first time with 20 seats, joining right-wing folk parties in Norway and Denmark.

Geert Wilders, a rising figure in Dutch politics, was charged with hate speech for equating Islam and Nazism. In June, his Freedom Party swept past the ruling Christian Democrats, who lost half of their strength in parliament. “More security, less crime, less immigration, less Islam — that is what the Netherlands has chosen,” said Wilders.

In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy — one eye on Jean-Marie Le Pen’s National Front, the other on the 2012 elections — rejecting cries of “Nazism” and “Vichyism,” is dismantling Gypsy camps and deporting Gypsies to Romania. Milan is now following the French lead.

What is happening in Europe partakes of a global trend. Multiracial, multi-ethnic, multicultural nations are disintegrating.

Russians battle ethnic Muslim separatists in the North Caucasus. Seventy percent of Americans support an Arizona law to identify and expel illegal aliens. Beijing swamps the homelands of Tibetans and Uighurs with Han Chinese. India fights secession in Kashmir, Nagaland and the Naxalite provinces.

“Wars between nations have given way to wars within nations, ” said Barack Obama in his Nobel Prize address.

Ethnonationalism tore Mikhail Gorbachev’s Soviet Union and Josip Tito’s Yugoslavia into 22 separate nations, and is now tugging at the seams of all multi-ethnic states. Globalism is in retreat before tribalism.

But the awakening of Europe’s establishment to the shallow roots of multiculturalism will likely prove frustrating and futile.

With her fertility rate below replacement levels for 40 years, projected to remain so for the next 40 years, Germany will lose 12 million of her 82 million people by 2050. Her median age will rise eight years to 53, and 40 percent of all Germans will be over 60.

Germany’s problem is insoluble. She is running out of Germans.

Yet if her welfare state is to survive and her industries are to remain competitive, Germany will need millions of new workers.

Where are they to come from, if not the Third World? For not one European nation, save Iceland and Albania, has had a birth rate for decades that is not below zero population growth.

Baby boomer Europe decided in the 1960s and 1970s it wanted La Dolce Vita, not the hassle of children. It had that sweet life. Now the bill comes due. And the bill is the end of their tribes and countries as we have known them.

Old Europe is dying, and the populist and nationalist parties, in the poet’s phrase, are simply raging “against the dying of the light.”

tells it straight to the man!
 
tells it straight to the man!

Pat is a slightly more sane version of those talk radio guys you hear so much about on this side of the Atlantic. Still, whatever cache he has in talking about American issues is completely lost when talking international.
 
traitorfish "buchanan" sounds Irish to me. why haven't you fallen in love with him?
 
Pat is a slightly more sane version of those talk radio guys you hear so much about on this side of the Atlantic. Still, whatever cache he has in talking about American issues is completely lost when talking international.
No. No, he's really not.


Link to video.

[Edit: This is, of course, Pat Robertson, not Pat Buchana. I am, you see, an idiot.]

traitorfish "buchanan" sounds Irish to me. why haven't you fallen in love with him?
Scottish, actually.
 
In each your respective countries, how long does it take for the average immigrant to go from having just arrived to being ready for employment?

Also, how long does it take for the average immigrant to go from having just arrived to having just started working?
 
that's pat robertson, not pat buchanan
Is it? So it is! Feck. I get the wrinkly old far-right "Pats" mixed up. That's what I get for bashing "pat buchanan haiti" into Youtube without really checking what I'm doing.

He's still daft, mind (and a Nazi sympathiser). Just not to the quite the extent that my poor, feeble mind had him pegged as.
 
Pat Robertson is wonderful. We need as many crazies as possible to fight their crazies.
 
Nietzsche said:
The man who fights dragons too long risks becoming one himself
Just a word of warning.
 
Pat Robertson is wonderful. We need as many crazies as possible to fight their crazies.
I'm wondering who "they" are supposed to be, or who "their crazies" are, but I'm honestly not sure I want to know.
 
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