Help desperately needed with Medieval II!

Phrossack

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I've two questions:

1) HOW DO YOU WIN THIS GAME?!?!?!?!?! The entire world declares war on me for no reason every time, and my economy instantly collapses! The Pope's vicious Inquisitors murder EVERYONE, even agents who don't have a piety rating, like Merchants, Diplomats, even invisible units like Assassins! And the vile Pope sits back and eats popcorn while his God-fearing Catholic friends get ground into paste by other Catholics! And this is all on Easy difficulty! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2) Ah, good to get that off my chest. How do you install the patch v1.2? I downloaded it, but it isn't working. Where do I send it?

Help's greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
short answer: don't get excommunicated.
 
I've two questions:

1) HOW DO YOU WIN THIS GAME?!?!?!?!?! The entire world declares war on me for no reason every time,

First of all: of the starting factions, don't pick Venice or Spain, as they are tricky (what with the number of factions around them). Make an alliance with one nearby faction plus with the Papal States, and that usually prevents at least one invasion from the get-go. Don't leave your troops in other factions' territories, unless you have military allowance -- that makes them angry.

Also, from the first round, you probably want to scramble to pick up as many rebel settlements as you can.

and my economy instantly collapses!

From the other topic, where I posted this:

If "manage every settlement" isn't on, turn it on.

Whenever an economic building is available (roads, ports, markets, mines), build them. Build them first. Build all of them. Right from the very first turn, build everything you can to improve the economy, and don't go to war with anybody until you start running large surpluses every round.

Tax every city as high as you possibly can (until the faces hit red). If you've already built every other economic building, build happiness-inducing buildings so that you can tax more.

In the cities in the middle of your empire (i.e. not under any danger of attack), you only need two or three garrison troops. This lowers the upkeep cost.

Try selling your map information. On the same line of thought, send a diplomat on journeys and get trade rights from every single faction (except the ones you are at war with, obviously). Selling your trade rights and map information can get up to 2000 gold.

Transform all of the settlements that aren't in the line of fire into cities. The only settlements that need to be castles are (a) the ones on your borders with factions likely to go to war with you, and (b) tiny islands that get invaded often.

The Pope's vicious Inquisitors murder EVERYONE, even agents who don't have a piety rating, like Merchants, Diplomats, even invisible units like Assassins!

I'm not exactly sure how to avoid inquisitors, other than by assassinating them first. I think they do less to your guys if you have an alliance with the Papal States.

And the vile Pope sits back and eats popcorn while his God-fearing Catholic friends get ground into paste by other Catholics! And this is all on Easy difficulty!

On the very first round, send a diplomat (or make a diplomat), and shoo him straight into Rome to get an alliance with the Papal States. That will improve your happiness with the Pope from the get-go, which gives you more leeway for wars with Catholic factions. If he's about to excommunicate you, donate 2000 florins to the Papal States (I like to keep a diplomat right next to Rome at all times for this purpose).

2) Ah, good to get that off my chest. How do you install the patch v1.2? I downloaded it, but it isn't working. Where do I send it?

I think you need v.1.1 installed first.

If you want, I can give you some of my saves where the economy is strong (from the tenth round or so), but you need v.1.2 for that.
 
Thanks for replying! Thing is, I do tax as much as possible, and I had trade rights with everybody. I always have "Manage All Cities" on. I focused heavily on economic buildings, but had to concentrate on barracks, too, lest I be conquered.

That said, the alliance with the Papacy sounds like a good idea. In my last few games, I haven't been executed, er, excommunicated, but whenever the Pope warms up to me, he gets old and dies. Stupid medieval life expectancy!:p

Do the patches fix the problem of Inquisitors killing agents without a Piety rating, or was that intentional? Anywho, thanks for the tips!
 
I've two questions:

1) HOW DO YOU WIN THIS GAME?!?!?!?!?! The entire world declares war on me for no reason every time, and my economy instantly collapses! The Pope's vicious Inquisitors murder EVERYONE, even agents who don't have a piety rating, like Merchants, Diplomats, even invisible units like Assassins! And the vile Pope sits back and eats popcorn while his God-fearing Catholic friends get ground into paste by other Catholics! And this is all on Easy difficulty! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the late Middle Ages, my friend. Be thankful you only have to put up with this in a video game, rather than live it.
 
Build a ton of priests. That usually works for me to get the pope off my back. Eventually, when I am powerful enough as a Catholic faction in the game, I park an Army outside Rome and take the city every time the pope excommunicates me, killing the pope and ensuring that the next pope is of my faction (because I built a ton of priests).
 
Build a ton of priests. That usually works for me to get the pope off my back.
Particularly helps if you dump a whole load in non-Catholic provinces. If you can avoid them getting assassinated, it won't be too long before they're up for promotion to cardinal. You can get hold of a pretty sizeable chunk of the College of Cardinals this way, which gives you a good chance of getting a guy from a faction, or from an ally, into the papacy.
 
Alternatively, build every priest from the same province (I like my capital), and then build the highest level churches you possibly can in the same province. Eventually you'll get a theologian's guild, and then every priest you pump out becomes a bishop or cardinal almost immediately.

The other school of thought is to be aggressive with the Papal States, but I find that to be more trouble than it's worth.
 
Actually, I found Venice to be the easiest. Early militia can defeat most enemies, and after capturing north Italy you are set financially. And what LightSpectra just said is perfect: building a theologian's guild gets you cardinals very quickly.
 
Actually, I found Venice to be the easiest.

I actually think the opposite, Venice is the second hardest of the starting factions. They only begin with like two settlements plus Crete (which is mostly useless), and they're surrounded by Hungary, Milan, and HRE, the former two of which are very aggressive.
 
The Pope's vicious Inquisitors murder EVERYONE, even agents who don't have a piety rating, like Merchants, Diplomats, even invisible units like Assassins!

Tell me about it! I've had not only priests but also cardinals burnt at stake for herecy. I lost a cardinal with 8 piety. It was a cardinal for Gods sake! He was appointed by the pope himself.
 
Get Stainless Steel, I don't even know if inquisters are still in.

I think agents like inquisitors, princesses and merchants are kind of pointless and they require way too much micromanagement to worth their while.
 
Princesses are actually okay and I kinda like their mechanic. Merchants and inquisitors piss me off though, especially merchants. I play Total War games to get away from the MMing, for God's sake. :p
 
Princesses are actually okay and I kinda like their mechanic. Merchants and inquisitors piss me off though, especially merchants. I play Total War games to get away from the MMing, for God's sake. :p

Indeed. Sending a merchant across the world to earn 5 florins from a pile of silk near Baghdad just isn't worth it, if you ask me.
 
I've installed both patches, but they don't appear to be working. What folder should I send them to?
 
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