Here comes the Hobbit movie

[bhsup]

He's got to be 80 by now and probably looks IRL like Bilbo at the end of ROTK. Plus, Bilbo was pretty darned active in The Hobbit. He'd probably have a heart attack trying to play Bilbo now.

 

[steviejay]

I heard a rumour (back after the ROTK was premiered) that they considered getting in Elijah Wood again but I doubt it. It'll be someone relatively known, it's not going to be like Superman Returns or whatever it was called.

Although I am curious cause if memory serves me correctly, Bilbo was around the age of 50 at the time of the Hobbit, but I can't see them bringing in someone of that age.

Bob Hoskins anyone?

 

[holy king]

I heard a rumour (back after the ROTK was premiered) that they considered getting in Elijah Wood again but I doubt it. It'll be someone relatively known, it's not going to be like Superman Returns or whatever it was called.

Although I am curious cause if memory serves me correctly, Bilbo was around the age of 50 at the time of the Hobbit, but I can't see them bringing in someone of that age.

Bob Hoskins anyone?

for a hobbit 50 of course equals maybe a 25-30 year old human...

 

[Cu Chulainn]

ah you're probably right that Ian Holm is a bit too old, but Ian McKellan IS Gandalf and I wouldn't accept anyone else in the role, period.

 

[aneeshm]

Why in the world would there be two movies? Oh, and I am curious which "version" of the riddles and story of how Bilbo got the ring he'll use. The original, or the one in later editions of the book.

There are two?

If so, what are they?

 

[Naval Power]

ah you're probably right that Ian Holm is a bit too old, but Ian McKellan IS Gandalf and I wouldn't accept anyone else in the role, period.

Agreed, they better film fast, can't be having him pull a Dumbledore.

 

[bhsup]

There are two?

If so, what are they?

I've never found a book that had the first, so I really don't know. One reason I was curious.

 

[Mandeville]

Does anyone know, I think it was Disney, who produced the Hobbit and LOTR cartoon movies back in the 80s? I believe glen yarborough did the music?? and are they still available?

 

[bhsup]

I was unaware that Disney did it. Baski did them in the 70s, I believe. Here's a nice clip, and one helluva song! (No, Igloo, this is NOT for you. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

 

[Mandeville]

I was unaware that Disney did it. Baski did them in the 70s, I believe. Here's a nice clip, and one helluva song! (No, Igloo, this is NOT for you. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

THANK YOU! I DIDNT REALIZE THEY WERE MADE IN THE 70S!!!!!

wheretheres a whip! theres a way! we dont wantto go to war today! but the lord of the land says nay nay nay!

 

[Evie]

I've never found a book that had the first, so I really don't know. One reason I was curious.

Good luck finding that. IT's a first-edition thing! :-D. (Which is to say, of course, that's it somewhere in my "Things to do in life").

AS for what it was - well, you should know, since both versions are refered in Lord of the Rings.

Essentialy, when Bilbo talks about how he got the ring as a "gift" from Gollum (the false version he made up to claim the ring as his own), that's how it actually happened in the first version of The Hobbit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit#Revisions

 

[Mandeville]

I have a Hobbit edition, paperback, copyright 1980. Any significance? I also have the other books copyright 80.

 

[Masquerouge]

I suggest Uwe Boll for director.

 

[bhsup]

Okay, so that's all it was? I never realized his fake story was how it actually happened initially. Thanks, man, you have no idea how long I have wondered what the difference was.

 

[Evie]

That's essentialy all it was, yes. And you're welcome. (Changes nothing to me wanting to get my hands on a first edition Hobbit. A first edition Lord would be nice too. I just like owning rare things :-D)

And Mandeville, the change was made in the 1950s edition of The Hobbit. About the only edition that would have the original story is the original, 1930s one :-D

 

[CamBot]

There are two?

If so, what are they?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/19/movies/19jack.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

LOS ANGELES — Goblins, trolls and dragons were a breeze compared with the caustic clash of egos that kept “The Hobbit” in Hollywood limbo for years. But a settlement announced on Tuesday between Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema holds the promise that peace will break out in Middle Earth and that fans could see the first of two resulting movies by December 2010.

The pact, which two people involved said was worth nearly $40 million to Mr. Jackson, ends years of litigation and acrimonious auditing over his share of the profits from the “Lord of the Rings” trilogy. Those movies grossed $2.9 billion worldwide, made Mr. Jackson’s reputation and vastly enhanced New Line’s stature among the major movie studios.

Though Sam Raimi has stated his interest, it is unclear who will direct the two Hobbit movies, but Mr. Jackson will not. Mr. Jackson and his producing and writing partners, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens, are committed to making “The Lovely Bones” through 2008 and then he is directing “Tintin,” based on the Belgian comic strip, for Steven Spielberg.

But Mr. Jackson and his wife, Ms. Walsh, will be executive producers of the Hobbit films, and they will share with New Line the right to approve all creative elements: director, screenwriter, script, cast, filming location, even the visual-effects company used (as if there were any doubt that his Weta Digital would be chosen). “They can assure that the films will be made with the same level of quality as if they were writing and directing,” Mr. Jackson’s manager, Ken Kamins, said.

Settlement of the litigation freed New Line, which held the rights to make a “Hobbit” movie, and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, which has distribution rights, to cut a 50-50 financing deal: New Line will make the two films and distribute them domestically, and MGM will distribute them overseas. The untitled sequel is described as bridging the 60-year gap between the end of J. R. R. Tolkien’s “Hobbit” and the beginning of the “Rings” trilogy.

Despite the treasure involved — or perhaps because of it — the Jackson-New Line marriage grew testy by 2003, when Mr. Jackson began complaining about his share of the profits. New Line paid added bonuses, but Mr. Jackson nonetheless began an audit, which was said to particularly antagonize Bob Shaye, the studio’s co-chairman with Michael Lynne.

Warfare broke into the open in February 2005, when Mr. Jackson sued New Line over his audit, saying the studio was stonewalling his accountants. After Mr. Jackson told fans in a Web posting late last year that New Line had formally dropped him from “The Hobbit,” Mr. Shaye exploded on the Web, “He thinks that we owe him something after we’ve paid him over a quarter of a billion dollars.”

A thaw began some weeks later, Mr. Kamins said, when Mr. Jackson dined at the home of Harry Sloan, the chairman of MGM. It held distribution rights to “The Hobbit” and Mr. Sloan was desperate to get the franchise moving. By May, during the Cannes Film Festival, Mr. Jackson and Mr. Shaye joined a multiparty conference call; it was the first time they had spoken in about two years, Mr. Kamins said. “That call created a tone that really lasted into the fall,” he said.

If Mr. Sloan was motivated to spur a deal — he said the “halo effect” alone from “The Hobbit” could help attract talent and financing to MGM — Messrs. Shaye and Lynne of New Line were said to be facing a deadline of their own: their contracts as studio bosses expire in 2008, and the public combat with Mr. Jackson was a cause for frequent criticism. (Mr. Jackson at one point offered his “Lovely Bones” project to every major studio except New Line.)

The studio, meanwhile, has had a run of two years with only two hits, “Rush Hour 3” and “Hairspray.” Its costly “Golden Compass” opened to a disappointing $25.8 million gross in its first weekend.

In an interview on Tuesday, Mr. Shaye admitted that he had taken some aspects of the dispute with Mr. Jackson quite personally, but he and Mr. Lynne insisted they had faced no pressure from above to cut a deal.

Mr. Lynne said, “No one told us we had to resolve it one way or another.”

I'm not sure what the source material for the sequel spanning the 60 year gap would be. Is there some apocryphal Tolkien work that covers this?

 

[kuukkeli]

I suggest Uwe Boll for director.

I'm sure he has very high demand on any major production so it's very possible that he's not available for The Hobbit

 

[Julian Delphiki]

Maybe Owe could do one of Tintin movies instead ? Jackson surely has lot of going on.

 

[Evie]

Actually there is a pretty obvious source for the bridge-movie : The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen and the rest of the appendixes pertaining to Aragorn's journeys. Which in fact do have pretty hefty details on what happens in-between.

Other relatively in-between material include the content of the book of Mazarbul, as well as various other pieces here and there.

Two likely changes are of course that a certain pair of characters that "missed" the Hobbit will almost certainly be either referended or appear directly on-screen, possibly at the expanse of characters from the actual novel ; I refer to Gimli and Legolas, who were both alive at the time of Hobbit, and both had their father appear in the story.

 

[Martacus]

Who should be cast as some of the major supporting characters not appearing in LOTR? such as Bard, Beorn, the elf-king, etc?