How can you support the Democrat Party?

[Berzerker]

You are blaming the Democratic party for people who are no longer in the Democratic party. And yet you refuse to blame the Republican party for people who are currently controlling the Republican party.

You are being absolutely dishonest.

Those people were Democrats... Of course the Democrat party is to blame. But you said I was blaming the living for the actions of the dead. Where did I blame living Democrats for slavery? I blame living Democrats for replacing Jim Crow with a drug war and the resulting mass incarceration of millions. If a Democrat didn't support the politicians responsible for that, great... They have nothing to justify in this thread and I already said so. As for the Republicans, I've blamed them several times for the drug war, but they dont complain much about institutional racism and I wanted to address the far greater hypocrisy of Democrats so I started this thread.

 

[Berzerker]

I think you might be cherrypicking to make your point that Democrats have certainly been complicit in the mishandling of drug freedoms through the decades

What did I cherrypick?

http://wiredpen.com/resources/polit...e-balance-of-power-congress-presidency/#chart

Y'all can see for yourselves who controlled the House and by how much, Democrats wrote and overwhelmingly supported the drug laws under Nixon and Reagan.

 

[mrt144]

Hey Berzerker, wanna talk about this again?

 

[Berzerker]

sure, whats your answer?

 

[Azem.Ocram]

Red State Democrats have more in common with Blue State Republicans than they do with typical citizens of NYC, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, or even San Antonio (which is in a red state). The problem is with First Past the Post, only 2 political parties are viable. If we all switched to Alternate Voting, you would see new political parties arising and Republicans losing the biggest slice of the pie (chart of voters). The Democratic Party isn't perfect but on average is far better than the Republican Party.

 

[mrt144]

sure, whats your answer?

You watch the news lately?

 

[Arwon]

Democrats now are Democrats from 150 years ago!

Nazis are socialists!

Baby powder is made of babies!

Hot dogs are actual dogs!

Pink Lady apples are real women!

 

[Berzerker]

Dont have to go back to slavery, Democrats spent the last few decades jailing black people en masse

yeah, how can you support them?

 

[Senethro]

Because you're full of crap. In that thread just over there you're supporting nazis, or as close as you can get without getting banned. In this thread you're brazenly cherrypicking or just fabricating. You don't seem very concerned about racism in a consistent manner.

Also, the ancient aliens visiting earth and being responsible for various cultures. I don't think you are very good at examining evidence or drawing conclusions.

 

[Berzerker]

Because you're full of crap. In that thread just over there you're supporting nazis, or as close as you can get without getting banned. In this thread you're brazenly cherrypicking or just fabricating. You don't seem very concerned about racism in a consistent manner.

Also, the ancient aliens visiting earth and being responsible for various cultures. I don't think you are very good at examining evidence or drawing conclusions.

Those various cultures claim people from the sky visited us, I didn't make that up. The ACLU defended the free speech of Nazis, are they full of crap too or just consistent? It would be ironic if I got banned for defending free speech... Democrats aren't consistent, this thread is a testimonial to that fact. How can Democrats lecture others about institutional racism when their party has spent the last 50 years throwing millions of people in jail? "We didn't vote for them". Y'all voted for Hillary, Bernie and Obama and they didn't stop the mass migration from school to prison. Hillary and Bernie supported the laws... Bernie even says he doesn't regret it. Now what did I cherry pick and fabricate?

 

[Zkribbler]

Dont have to go back to slavery, Democrats spent the last few decades jailing black people en masse

That'll teach us to vote for Republican-dratted legislation, see also welfare reform, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and the invasion of Iraq.

 

[Zkribbler]

He doesn't know about the shift in electorates that resulted from Nixon's strategy forty-odd years ago. That's why he thinks Republicans stand for individual freedoms and Democrats for slavery.

More precisely, it resulted from the democratic-drafted Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and Constitutional ban on poll taxes. The segregationist backlash was merely capitalized by Mssrs Nixon and Reagan.

 

[Berzerker]

That'll teach us to vote for Republican-dratted legislation, see also welfare reform, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and the invasion of Iraq.

http://www.salon.com/2011/06/19/len_bias_cocaine_tragedy_still_affecting_us_drug_law/

 

[FriendlyFire]

http://www.salon.com/2011/06/19/len_bias_cocaine_tragedy_still_affecting_us_drug_law/

Have you actually read your own Article ?
I mean This article places the most of the blame on REPUBLICANS for the crazy admendments that was added to the bill.

That’s right. There was this growing problem of crack cocaine and there was a lot of the violence that surrounded the trade that really increased the stigma of it. In 1984, Reagan was able to convince voters that he was stronger than Walter Mondale on the issues of drugs and crime, so the Democrats were looking for a way to regain control of that story

So the DEA came up with numbers to define high-level trafficking, but a congressman from Kentucky said he would never be able to use the law because they didn’t have trafficking that high in his area. So we needed new numbers.

So a narc was responsible for the 100-to-1 crack-to-powder ratio?
Yes. And later he turned out to be a perjurer and went to federal prison. He had lied for years about graduating from Howard University’s School of Pharmacy and being a pharmacist

And those were last-minute items thrown into the first bill that was passed by the House. At the time, the Senate was controlled by Strom Thurmond and the Republicans
They looked at it and said: “OK, well if the Democrats have a sentence of five years to 20 years, let’s up it to 10 years to 40 years. And if the Dems say 20 grams, we’ll make it 5!”

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Have you actually read your own Article ?
I mean This article places the most of the blame on REPUBLICANS for the crazy admendments that was added to the bill.

Typical.

 

[Zkribbler]

Have you actually read your own Article ?
I mean This article places the most of the blame on REPUBLICANS for the crazy admendments that was added to the bill.

Dang, I was about to say that.

It became the sole focus of legislative activity for the remainder of the session on both sides of the aisle.

At the time, the Senate was controlled by Strom Thurmond and the Republicans. They looked at it and said: “OK, well if the Democrats have a sentence of five years to 20 years, let’s up it to 10 years to 40 years. And if the Dems say 20 grams, we’ll make it 5!” Nobody looked at the proper ratios based on how harmful it was. It was completely detached from science. Nobody could say that crack was 100 times more dangerous than powder.

 

[Arakhor]

It would be ironic if I got banned for defending free speech...

No one has the right to free speech on these forums, especially not the US variant, so irony has little to do with it.

 

[Takhisis]

Nazis are socialists!

That's, like, your opinion, man.

(mild profanity warning)

 

[onejayhawk]

That's, like, your opinion, man.

(mild profanity warning)

It happens to be a correct opinion, one history teacher not-with-standing. The biggest difference they had with the communists is that the fascists were willing to run businesses through the ownership rather than nationalize the company. Both parties wanted absolute control of the economy and promised a raft of social benefits in compensation, plus the secret police and heavy militarization of course.

J

 

[Arakhor]

If it's a "correct opinion", isn't that generally referred to as a "fact"?