How is your EU3 Game going?

[Kyriakos]

It is not impossible to win, but when the colonization of the new world takes place, ideally i would want Castille crippled already, and i will have to fight a war on England's ground in the future too, in purely Byzantine meddling fashion

I would want to annex Naples, but this would mean i would have to maintain another 20K army there, and currently this would be problematic, unless i expand in Africa to justify my 12K army there in a single provice

 

[uat2d]

Is PU, personal union ? Never did that.
Won't republics have heavy restrictions on the centralisation bar ? It's aaaallll the way to centralised for me (because of forming Spain).

For the most part, the restrictions are similar to monarchies.

Forms of Government

None of them have QFTNW, i checked each of them ! I've never discovered unsettled lands without either explorers/conquistadors OR by having adjacent colonies.

Also, what is the map cache and how do i clear that ? I did find a folder \map\cache but erasing everything there doesn't seem right.

I guess it's the cache then, yeah, just erase everything there.

Oh and i wanted to ask, what stuff should i build in colonies ? Things that increase base tax prolly wont do much because of that 90% overseas thing, and i didn't build marketplaces and the like because the colonies didn't seem to produce that much stuff.
So, should i just build other things ?

Other than the mandatory lvl 1 forts everywhere, I usually build constables and marketplaces, at least on the most profitable provinces.

Heck, what I usually do if no province is lacking a lvl 1 fort is to sort my provinces by tax income from highest to lowest and spend my magistrates on those (and I mostly build money-making buildings to get the ball rolling).

Yeah, PU is the main draw of running a Monarchy. Basically if you're in a royal marriage with another kingdom who has lower prestige than you and either doesn't have an heir to speak of or an heir with low legitimacy you can select the option "claim throne".

This, it can be very cheesy.

You fight a succession war and if you win you have the option to "enforce Personal Union". Now you have a free vassal/ally in war and every time your monarch dies there is a chance you inherit that kingdom, i.e. annex the kingdom in total for 0 infamy and all the provinces are cored.

You don't need to fight a succession war, if you claim the throne and their king dies with no heir and there's no other claimants (which is usually my case), you form a PU just like that, without having to go to war.

Though it helps to have an army larger than the PU junior otherwise they'll spam you with insults to go under the threshold of 0 and break free from the union once the ruler dies.

It's a bit of a broken mechanic as it can lead to hilarious conclusions in the hands of experienced players, such as one notorious AAR in which a paraforumer played as Bar (arguably the toughest nation in the game) and successfully inherited France, and then Britain, Germany, AND Spain (essentially getting all of Europe cored for no infamy).

How could he get all of Europe cored with no infamy? Upon inheritance one gets no infamy but only gets cores in provinces that are cores of the target and that are either part of the HRE or in the same culture group if both members are both in the HRE or in the same culture group. Not to mention that integrating is even worse, it never grants cores and it gives 1 infamy per province.

Unless he got Britain and Spain into the HRE, there's no way he inherited them with cores as Bar.

 

[Kyriakos]

Fourteen years later (1434) not much has changed. I expanded some more in Asia Minor, but really i tried to keep the BB down so other than that no more wars (apart from annexing Crete; France did not dare fight me with the English war going on). Then i watched as the Mameluks became the subject of the great game of Imperialism...
England won a war with France, and is set for more massive wars in the future. Castille did not do anything, and neither (apparently) did Muscovy. I have good relations with Lithuania and Austria (and Poland) and just allied myself to Lithuania.
Austria won the war, but it did not take many provinces... They control a COT in Venice though.

I have a list of vassals, Georgia, Albania and soon Trebizond. Not sure what i will do next. The Mamelukan collapse is a serious problem.

I am first at wealth, but third overall.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Yeah, PU is the main draw of running a Monarchy. Basically if you're in a royal marriage with another kingdom who has lower prestige than you and either doesn't have an heir to speak of or an heir with low legitimacy you can select the option "claim throne". You fight a succession war and if you win you have the option to "enforce Personal Union". Now you have a free vassal/ally in war and every time your monarch dies there is a chance you inherit that kingdom, i.e. annex the kingdom in total for 0 infamy and all the provinces are cored.

The only downside to this claim throne mechanic is that when you claim throne all relations with other nations you are in a royal marriage with are lowered. But since you can easily counter this with cash gifts it's essentially a nonfactor, meaning there are no downsides to PU cheesing...unless you don't like cheesing.

It's a bit of a broken mechanic as it can lead to hilarious conclusions in the hands of experienced players, such as one notorious AAR in which a paraforumer played as Bar (arguably the toughest nation in the game) and successfully inherited France, and then Britain, Germany, AND Spain (essentially getting all of Europe cored for no infamy).

Been a monarchy for almost 150 years and never did that. Might try that with some minor italian state before going to republics.

Bar the toughest ? Why ?

D&T was good, it makes a ton of improvements over vanilla, including a far superior map, moving the start date back to 1356, more unifications, etc. however, in later versions it has started to suffer speed issues due to the tons of stuff they added, and it now goes up to 1936 for some inexplicable reason. So it's good, but not as good as it once was.

Wanted to install death & taxes too, but just noticed it wasn't finished.
I'll try it after i finish my first vanilla game tho.

For the most part, the restrictions are similar to monarchies.

Forms of Government

I'll try that PU mechanic a bit and then change to one of the republics.

I guess it's the cache then, yeah, just erase everything there.

Erased it, hopefully that will stop them.

Other than the mandatory lvl 1 forts everywhere, I usually build constables and marketplaces, at least on the most profitable provinces.

Heck, what I usually do if no province is lacking a lvl 1 fort is to sort my provinces by tax income from highest to lowest and spend my magistrates on those (and I mostly build money-making buildings to get the ball rolling).

I'll build those things - but won't i need churches & courthouses for the future ?

 

[uat2d]

Bar the toughest ? Why ?

One of the toughest, you're an OPM with no room to expand and Burgundy has a core on you, you're meant to be eaten whole before 1400.

I'll build those things - but won't i need churches & courthouses for the future ?

I usually don't need them, the most I might do is build some of those if I'm having stability issues and. Just don't forget spy defence buildings in the capital and you'll be fine with few buildings such as these.

 

[warpus]

It seems a bit ruined as a prospect of winning, since already many other key players have strong positions, which will force me to go to wars with little chance of expanding, rather so as to keep others in check. I am not sure if Muscovy will be maintained at this point though. France is bad enough, but at least it is set for a huge war with England. The Castillian posessions in Egypt will be a problem until i build up my navy, and in D&T you have to modernize seperately for each part of the tech tree, which is new to me.

Serbia being in PU with Castille means i have to win decisively over Castille if i am to expand there. Also the next wars should be in Italy, since i have the event that makes that easier... And Asia Minor is still not mine.

Not that bad for a new game after all this time, and with a mod i never played before, but not that great either

Seems like an interesting challenge though, not something to give up on

D&T was good, it makes a ton of improvements over vanilla, including a far superior map, moving the start date back to 1356, more unifications, etc. however, in later versions it has started to suffer speed issues due to the tons of stuff they added, and it now goes up to 1936 for some inexplicable reason. So it's good, but not as good as it once was.

Do you have steam? I installed the mod, yet am unable to launch it. I think I'm supposed to launch the mod via the launcher, so I found it in the EU3 folder, and the screen prompting me to pick the mod comes up.. and I pick it.. but then when I click "go" or "Launch" or whatever, the launcher disappears and nothing launches. I googled it, and haven't been able to find any steam-specific instructions.

 

[Kyriakos]

And a new report:

It is the year 1450, and i uneventfully expanded in Naples without being able to annex it (too many provinces). Muscovy is an even bigger problem now, and although Georgia is my vassal, i should secure the rest of asia minor to disallow them passage to Persia.

England replaced Castille (mostly) in Africa, and the mameluks managed to cling on to life and gain some provinces back (not that they are anything important anymore).

France is hindered by England, and i think it will collapse some time in the future, at least in Italy- perhaps with my help

Serbia ended the PU with Castille, due to Castille losing the war to England.

That is all for now

Currently not that great since i am keeping an 8k army to nest in my sole african province, and i think it is time to attack Tripoli. Maybe will serve as a nice stepping point for the future war with Sicily.

 

[sophie]

How could he get all of Europe cored with no infamy? Upon inheritance one gets no infamy but only gets cores in provinces that are cores of the target and that are either part of the HRE or in the same culture group if both members are both in the HRE or in the same culture group. Not to mention that integrating is even worse, it never grants cores and it gives 1 infamy per province.

I don't recall, it's been awhile since I read it, I just remember him inheriting a majority of Europe.

Wanted to install death & taxes too, but just noticed it wasn't finished.
I'll try it after i finish my first vanilla game tho.

Play a few more games in vanilla. D&T is great but many aspects of the game are significantly altered, particularly the sliders, advisers and ideas, and it's easier to understand how these changes work with a decent grasp of the rules in vanilla.

 

[Kyriakos]

By the way, in Meiou you could get a province for 1 infamy defect to you after you controlled it for a bit over a year, is there no such (or similar) rule in DaT? I never observed any such defection, but up to now i finished wars quickly.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Just changed to Administrative Republic woo !
Almost all the CoTs are dominated by me - except Ille de France(it's my ally), Bar(too competitive for little benefit), Kongo(backwater CoT that keeps going bankrupt), and Samarkand(which i can't reach). I have the "Trade with ..." modifier for every product in the game i think.

One of the toughest, you're an OPM with no room to expand and Burgundy has a core on you, you're meant to be eaten whole before 1400.

Odd, the Bar in my game seems to be doing well for himself. I think they have 2 provinces and established a very competitive CoT. Not sure what it's alliances are tho. Burgundy is also quite powerful, i've been having huge wars with them: me + France VS Burgundy + Bavaria. Only recently we were able to actually win some provinces.

I usually don't need them, the most I might do is build some of those if I'm having stability issues and. Just don't forget spy defence buildings in the capital and you'll be fine with few buildings such as these.

Why spy defense in the capital ?
I only built spy defense in foreign conquered capitals (Barcelona, Napoli, Lisbon, Granada) since those had high revolt risks (until they became core) and Napoli and Lisbon were targeted for revolts a few times.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Here is an update map of my newly formed Spanish empire !

Spoiler :

Wow, that's a great looking Hungary there
Hope they keep expanding

 

[Quintillus]

Kyriakos - Good point about wanting Castille to be on the decline prior to colonialism. Although now that they aren't in your area anymore, that might not be as important.

Heretic - Spy defence in the capital is important because a lot of spy missions can only be performed in the capital. Stuff like infiltrating administration, infiltrating spy ring, sowing discontent. Take a look at what spy missions you can do in some random rival province versus the capital, and you'll see why the capital should be the first priority in spy defence.

It's often thought that you get more return on investment by building constables, workshops, and trade buildings than by building temples and courthouses, since you'll often be at stability 3 anyway, and hopefully won't have such high revolt risk that -1 revolt risk makes a huge difference. It's also expensive to spend 80 gold per province or so for courthouses. And, generally, most countries have relatively low stability costs to begin with. The one game where I've build lots and lots of temples is the multiplayer game, as the Ottomans. That was because I'd taken a lot of stability-cost-increasing decisions, had westernized, had lots of non-accepted-culture-people, and was overextended, so my stability costs were ridiculous. But most of the time, there aren't that many factors working together to increase stability (or war weariness is one of them, and it goes away with time).

 

[Kyriakos]

Yes, but by now it has become very difficult to control them, and England is even worse...

The Hedjaz ruled virtually the entire arabian peninsula, then, instantly, they collapsed into the chaos that you see here... It seems the death of nomadic kingdom's rulers has huge effect in d&t.

Lithuania lost a war with Austria and Ukraine was born. I allied myself with the remains of Lithuania to avoid - hopefully - Muscovian expansion there.

Austria is becomming a monster in central Europe. France died a long time ago.

 

[Angst]

Bar the toughest ? Why ?

Ryuku is toughest.

Ulm is best.

 

[Tee Kay]

Ryukyu was historically one of the more important trading countries in the region, right up until the early 19th century. The Okinawans must have really pissed off Paradox...

And yeah, Ulm4lyfe

 

[madviking]

 

[NedimNapoleon]

Love the Ceylon enclave.

 

[wujinlong]

Love the Ceylon enclave.

 

[Quintillus]

Love the Manchu exclaves.

Nothing much new in the Horde. I lost about 20% of my lands in TSCs, but am now reconquering. And I finally reached a new tech 55 years into the game!

 

[Angst]

What happened to the Manchu there?