Imperialism and -Isms, Some Perspective

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What is it with these malignant ethno nationalists and their tortured logic and complete lack of understanding towards human history.

Nothing you said here stands up consistently. None of it is really accurate at all. None it is reality.

So go dream your little dream in your little hovel and bath in your racism, misogyny and fear and leave the rest of the world alone.

People like you don't even know the definitions of the words you use to identify yourselves. Not only are you imperialists, but you are so dishonest and willfully ignorant that you think you are somehow the heroes of a story that doesn't exist.

Your ideologies and use of those isms will be hard for the future nations to understand. They will wonder how it was even possible for people so out of touch with reality to exist, let alone rule an empire that spanned most of the world.

The truth hurts, especially those who refuse to accept it.
 
Because your posts violate the autonomy of the OT nation

By your own admission, you are a diverse group of people that believe in varying degrees of "isms."

If OT is anything, it is an Empire and definitely not the one that can swing, point, or aim weapons in any impressive way lol
 
People like you don't even know the definitions of the words you use to identify yourselves. Not only are you imperialists, but you are so dishonest and willfully ignorant that you think you are somehow the heroes of a story that doesn't exist.

Your ideologies and use of those isms will be hard for the future nations to understand. They will wonder how it was even possible for people so out of touch with reality to exist, let alone rule an empire that spanned most of the world.

The truth hurts, especially those who refuse to accept it.

You want to role back the planet to a time that never existed, but I'm the one in a fantasy world. Ok got it.
 
By your own admission, you are a diverse group of people that believe in varying degrees of "isms."

If OT is anything, it is an Empire and definitely not the one that can swing, point, or aim weapons in any impressive way lol
No, we're a distinct culture with many time-honored traditions. One of which is not wasting each other's time with stupid equivocations. By violating that most sacred norm, you violate our autonomy. Therefore, you're an imperialist.
 
You want to role back the planet to a time that never existed, but I'm the one in a fantasy world. Ok got it.

Nations were so prevalent and understood as vital throughout history that it was literally within the last 100 yrs that anyone had the insane idea to try to undo them.

No, we're a distinct culture with many time-honored traditions. One of which is not wasting each other's time with stupid equivocations. By violating that most sacred norm, you violate our autonomy. Therefore, you're an imperialist.

Do I have the pleasure of speaking with the Emperor of OT? Lol the mark of an imperialist is definitely someone who claims to speak on everyone's behalf, magnanimously and for their own good
 
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Nah, I think that's Kyriakos. You see, one of our other customs is basing status on post count
 
Nations were so prevalent and understood as vital throughout history that it was literally within the last 100 yrs that anyone had the insane idea to try to undo them.

Nations didn't even exist in the form you are speaking of until about 300 years ago. Nationality as an idea was very limited and mainly an aristocratic ideal. World Wide.

I'm not going to able to have the conversation since you are literally recreating history to fit your idea.
 
Nations were so prevalent and understood as vital throughout history that it was literally within the last 100 yrs that anyone had the insane idea to try to undo them.

What? The last 100 years has been the age of nations (frequently shortlived and slightly ridiculous but nations all the same) and the death of empires (British, French, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, Russian if you haven't noticed).
 
The isms originated in the US because the 1960s was the beginning of the Humanist imperial era that strives to diversify the empire even more than it already was, ethnically and ideologically
Human Empire you say?
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Otherwise, my only response to your posts is huh?
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Just because you put "Nation" in a capital letter doesn't give the word magical powers.

It does however make you sound like a fairly boilerplate fascist. Especially the banging on about how nations must all be unified and free of icky (non fascist) ideologies, and how states and nations must be co-terminous.

So what changes are proposing exactly?

Bloke insists "The Nation" has to be unified, essentialist, and free of other ideological influences, and a state should only be for representing and expressing the collective (unified, pure) will of one nation.

I'll give you precisely one guess how achieving the goal of an ideologically unified and pure ethnostate looks in practice.
 
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Bloke insists "The Nation" has to be unified, essentialist, and free of other ideological influences, and a state should only be for representing and expressing the collective (unified, pure) will of one nation.

I'll give you precisely one guess how achieving the goal of an ideologically unified and pure ethnostate looks in practice.

Toppling the Third Reich was pure unadulterated Imperialism.
 
Some people like to be right, some people need to be right. The main ism that comes to mind is narcissism.
 
Does anyone know where this guy is from? Whoops, what Nation?
 
Feminists want to achieve specific objectives and achieve a subjective moral leadership. They want power. Equality and Fairness are rhetorical, but the dialectic ledger of what they seek is no different than any imperial rule of the past. There would have to be a ruling elite to dominate the misguided masses that need you, a bureaucracy to administrate it, a military / police to enforce it, and a secular or religious clergy to ensure moral conformity, while punishing traitors and heretics.
Oh, look. Another 'splainer, trying to tell me what I want. :rolleyes:

That's never a good idea when I've spent most of the day on The Handmaid's Tale review/comment sites.

Nations are not capable of being diverse.
Justin Trudeau disagrees with you ("Diversity is our strength").

Your ideologies and use of those isms will be hard for the future nations to understand. They will wonder how it was even possible for people so out of touch with reality to exist, let alone rule an empire that spanned most of the world.
Spanned most of the world? Seriously? The Commonwealth nations (former British colonies) span more square miles around the world than the U.S. does. Even Canada by itself is larger.

Nations were so prevalent and understood as vital throughout history that it was literally within the last 100 yrs that anyone had the insane idea to try to undo them.

I had no idea that the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and Byzantines all lived within the last 100 years. Wow. Truly a TIL moment. :egypt: :queen: :king: :viking: :assimilate:

Nah, I think that's Kyriakos. You see, one of our other customs is basing status on post count
Well, he is a reincarnated Byzantine Emperor, after all... :bowdown: :king:

(@Kyriakos needs his own smiley. Anybody care to make one? :p)
 
So what changes are proposing exactly?

People are better off going with their gut and choosing people they have most things that matter to them in common as who they associate with than attempting to make fetch happen.

I don't really care what people who aren't of my Nation, Baptist Americans with roots that predate the Revolution, do, but the world would be a better place if imperialists were scared to try to rule anyone.

Human Empire you say?
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Otherwise, my only response to your posts is huh?
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Humanist is a more accurate way to describe "Liberalism" of today. People that think there is one Human race, that God isn't real, that we're all in this together, etc.

Just because you put "Nation" in a capital letter doesn't give the word magical powers.

It does however make you sound like a fairly boilerplate fascist. Especially the banging on about how nations must all be unified and free of icky (non fascist) ideologies, and how states and nations must be co-terminous.

If fascism is synonymous with National Socialism, like it originally meant (I'm sure you don't know that or care to know that b/c you make up your own definitions to words), then Nation has nothing to do with it.

Hitler wanted a racial empire, which meant he desired demographic displacement akin to what the Han Chinese have been doing for thousands of years. He expressed admiration for the Chinese for that feat of populating and dominating so much land with the dominant nation achieving the appropriate population to do so without being challenged substantially.

If "Fascism" is defined that way, then you are mistaking placing Nation first for racial imperialism. There is such thing as stopping at borders you diplomatically establish with your neighbors. I know it's hard for someone like you, that wants to change the world, to understand.

Bloke insists "The Nation" has to be unified, essentialist, and free of other ideological influences, and a state should only be for representing and expressing the collective (unified, pure) will of one nation.

I'll give you precisely one guess how achieving the goal of an ideologically unified and pure ethnostate looks in practice.

We, as humanity, are not capable of achieving something so Godly and divine. There are always people stupid enough to let in migrants that pollute the future with revolutionaries. There are always greedy rich people who would import labor they pay less for than help their own people's homeless. There are always hawkish nutjobs who want to flex their biceps against anyone they can get away with, damn the consequences.

As a Christian, and someone who understands the meaning of the Tower of Babel, we are too stupid, too fallen, and too easy to trick to form a Nation-State. We will always be tricked into making our lives worse and others' miserable.
 
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If fascism is synonymous with National Socialism, like it originally meant (I'm sure you don't know that or care to know that b/c you make up your own definitions to words), then Nation has nothing to do with it.

Hitler wanted a racial empire, which meant he desired demographic displacement akin to what the Han Chinese have been doing for thousands of years. He expressed admiration for the Chinese for that feat of populating and dominating so much land with the dominant nation achieving the appropriate population to do so without being challenged substantially.

If "Fascism" is defined that way, then you are mistaking placing Nation first for racial imperialism. There is such thing as stopping at borders you diplomatically establish with your neighbors. I know it's hard for someone like you, that wants to change the world, to understand.

Actually, that wasn't the original usage of the term. Fascism was NOT originally National Socialism, and was NOT created, originally by Hitler. It was coined by a WW1-era Italian politician whose protégé, Benito Mussolini, established the first fascist government in history in Italy more than a decade before Hitler came to power in Germany, several different ideas than Naziism that were quite notable, such a very significant Clericalist element, and an almost complete of Hitler's racial politics which you just stated were the sole defining of Fascism. So, I'm afraid your definition and analysis are somewhat inaccurate.
 
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