[RD] Individualism of Responsibility: shifting the burden to consumers

[Truthy]

Hey I have a funny one, imagine Boomers trying to fight the Battle of Stalingrad

If they could survive Grateful Dead jam fests, they could survive Stalingrad

But actually, yeah, I think I can

 

[Farm Boy]

Imagine yourself at Stalingrad or Verdun. Boomers had Vietnam thrust upon them and created Woodstock on their own.

Be thankful that war has changed.

Ew, the big poo/roofie party? Gross.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I have, many times, but you must concede it is difficult to imagine one's own death.

No one forced them to keep electing genocidal war criminals who promised to fight the war to a finish.

I certainly agree that it is difficult to imagine the terrible conditions of Stalingrad, Flanders, or even Waterloo. In 1968 and 1972, boomers (born 1946-64) were not yet a large percentage of the eligible voters. The US voting age was 21 until 1970 when it was lowered to 18. In 1968 only those boomers born in 1946-47 could vote. In 1972 those born in 1954 or earlier could vote.

 

[Socrates99]

For all their faults Boomers had a lot more to do with ending Vietnam than keeping it going.

 

[Farm Boy]

Blame the French!

 

[Birdjaguar]

I could not vote in 1968, but I did go to the Anti inaugural events in DC in January 1969. We were chased by police on horseback among other things.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/washington_area_spark/8351956248/in/photostream/

 

[Truthy]

Which one are you?

 

[tjs282]

Which one are you?

I'm guessing the Austin Powers lookalike... Groovy, baby!

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

I thought he was the one on the left with the big hat and braids.

 

[Truthy]

I'm guessing the Austin Powers lookalike... Groovy, baby!

This was my guess, too. But Aimee could be onto something

 

[cardgame]

It worked when Paul Bernardo thought he would be able to sell his book on Amazon.

It worked against the author, you can't boycott Amazon itself, it's too big and too convenient and too established. Same for Walmart.

 

[El_Machinae]

You can absolutely deliberately give less money to Amazon, though. People's Prime subscription isn't a trivial percentage of the money they hand to Bezos

 

[Farm Boy]

Yeah. It seems like unless you have a hard time getting out/securing transport, the secret to funding Amazon less is buying less ****.

Dunno. Trips to the store have never really seemed trivial or free, gas adds up and lists to condense trips are a good idea. Maybe it's actually hard for people not to have stuff dumped piecemeal on their stoops by hired men?

Iono. I suck at cooking from reasonably not processed ingredients so that's a blind spot. Vegetables and fruit just go off so fast and the family decided it hates canned food, which makes that more difficult to deal with.

 

[Socrates99]

Iono. I suck at cooking from reasonably not processed ingredients so that's a blind spot. Vegetables and fruit just go off so fast and the family decided it hates canned food, which makes that more difficult to deal with.

...that's not a paragraph I thought I'd ever read from a guy named Farm Boy...

 

[yung.carl.jung]

Many modern philosophers would agree with @aimeeandbeatles OP statement, in fact the late Mark Fisher wrote an entire book about depression and mental illness in todays society. His main thesis is that instead of mental illness being taken up by family, friends and the community, it is seen as a purely individual issue, something that oneself has to take care of, where the psychologist is merely a personal trainer helping you reach your personal goal. It is a deficit, it is something to be dealt with purely on an individual basis, something you're entirely left alone with aside from support groups.Lastly, he goes on to claim that depression today is largely a structural illness, a symptom of late capitalism, insane stress levels and the reign of constant self-improvement.

Don't some phones have planned obsolescence so you have to replace them more often? That can't be good for the environment.

even if your phone doesn't break down after 3 years of consecutive use, all it takes is one goddamn software update and you're either faced with errors, driver issues, or your phone simply not having the processing power to use a new OS

I recently tried out my previous PC that I used up until ~2012. that mother trucker had 1 gigabite of RAM split up to 2 sticks. he barely ran windows 7, any other OS would've smoked him. it doesn't matter how well you treat your electronics, they're made to be obsolote after a few years.

my girlfriend had an iPhone for 6 years and it's still in very good condition, but it can't even handle the new iOS. it's a damn shame if you ask me.

 

[Socrates99]

We had a clothes washer break down after about 6 years but I remember as a kid my parents had the same one almost entire childhood. I replaced the pump on it only to have the control board fail a month later so we had to buy a new one. The 125$ I spent on the pump was essentially flushed down the toilet.

While I was looking up videos on YouTube on how to repair my washer I chanced on this video a guy had done about the tub of his washer springing a leak. The steel drum you put clothes in that moves and spins sits inside a plastic drum that holds the water. This guy's particular model had a bolt that seemed to be nonfunctional sticking out of the metal drum. It was just long enough to wear a groove in his plastic drum and eventually after enough spin cycles cause the plastic drum to leak. It was at that point that I became a full on believer in planned obsolescence. It's real and it's very pertinent to this thread. When they say "they dont make em like they used to" its absolutely true and intentional.

 

[Farm Boy]

...that's not a paragraph I thought I'd ever read from a guy named Farm Boy...

It's ironic a bit, eh? I'm technically in a food desert. Now, you figure I have a couple thousand people that wander in the vicinity, I have access to rent convenient ground. At the rates you can reasonably sell fresh stuff and at the price it seems to go for, since your competition is the internet and large stores around where people work.... I still haven't made the math work out right on the labor minus the risk. It still seems to pay better to buy the cheapest piece of metal you can keep running and then commute 30/40 minutes to work ~minimum wage.

Staying home and producing/cooking stuff from scratch is a nice lifestyle choice, but it's not one I've figured out how make work. Health insurance always winds up being the utility pole that breaks the camel's back.

its absolutely true and intentional.

Maytag used to build great stuff. This is really the consumer's fault.