INES II: Gone is the Old Guard
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Abaddon
Deity
I doubt they are going to accept that...
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
We Want Nigeria, and south africa to pay up. As i said, im done arguing. If we must nuke them, I shall, regardless of what my people want. As I said, why not just make peace with NADTA. DFI is where the true conflict lays.
Agent 89
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OOC: Great awards. As for restarting this, I'd rather not, as I feel pretty attached to my nation right now. Perhaps we could come back a year latter, where after a few DFI/NADTA/EC cities being nuked, some scientist invents a missile detecting sattilite that renders all nukes next to useless. If we continue on this course, the world won't be destroyed, but a nuclear hellfire will rain down on half the world.
Also, to the people in the EC, your acting way too out-of-character. There's the possibility that Putin would launch a few hundred nukes to destroy the world before the rest of his government had a chance to man up and try to stop him, but the chance of other countries doing this. I mean, most likely the Moroccans would rise up if their leader tried to pull a stunt like that, because they'd rather not all die. Also, you seem to assume that even if you could build 170 nukes, they'd all be ready within a week.
And once again I state that 1 ASP for 10 nukes is extremly ridiculous and most likely the start of this whole problem. Considering that we can get only 5 divisions for 1 ASP, 10 nukes for the same amount is extremely unlikely, unless these nukes don't work, or aren't nearly as bad as modern day nuclear weapons.
Also, to the people in the EC, your acting way too out-of-character. There's the possibility that Putin would launch a few hundred nukes to destroy the world before the rest of his government had a chance to man up and try to stop him, but the chance of other countries doing this. I mean, most likely the Moroccans would rise up if their leader tried to pull a stunt like that, because they'd rather not all die. Also, you seem to assume that even if you could build 170 nukes, they'd all be ready within a week.
And once again I state that 1 ASP for 10 nukes is extremly ridiculous and most likely the start of this whole problem. Considering that we can get only 5 divisions for 1 ASP, 10 nukes for the same amount is extremely unlikely, unless these nukes don't work, or aren't nearly as bad as modern day nuclear weapons.
TerrisH
Mischief?
One thing I would like to point out at this point is nobody is quite sure how powerful the nukes are. oh sure, they got a vauge idea from the math, but outside perhaps a few test detonations, there has been no significant exposure to them. there is none of the stigma that exists in this world attached to them. yet. the people are not going to rise up and protest a weapon that can quickly end the war. they won't protest something that can destroy their foes. there not even going to consider them world enders, outside a few circles of scientists.
now after they are used, there is a chance of revolts and protest's happening. but until somebody dose use them against a civilian target, they are simply yet another weapon, abet a powerful one, to the general population. nothing less, nothing more.
now after they are used, there is a chance of revolts and protest's happening. but until somebody dose use them against a civilian target, they are simply yet another weapon, abet a powerful one, to the general population. nothing less, nothing more.
Milarqui
Deity
@FEAR, for their stupid proposal: I'll let you see my finger.
Haseri
Emperor
bestrfcplayer
Steppin' up!
How about we launch all of your nukes, and kill all life on the planet? And while the nukes are launching, the EC leaders, and the most important people of the EC countries can go to Alpha Centari.
bestrfcplayer
Steppin' up!
I'm not excepting there stupid proposal either. Make a better one FEAR, or the peace talk if off.
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We're also assuming that these nuclear weapons work, which they may not. After all, this was a crash course program, and because of the take over of the base, I doubt they were tested. And if our nukes don't work, that means the Moroccan plans are also useless.
And if they do work, they may not be as powerful as we expect them to. We're all refering to them in terms of modern day nukes. After all, they're a new technology and considering how extremly cheap they can be produced, it is likely that they are not yet as powerful as the nuclear weapons we know. For all we know, they could be just a slightly more powerful missile.
And if they do work, they may not be as powerful as we expect them to. We're all refering to them in terms of modern day nukes. After all, they're a new technology and considering how extremly cheap they can be produced, it is likely that they are not yet as powerful as the nuclear weapons we know. For all we know, they could be just a slightly more powerful missile.
Shadowbound
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What I think is ironic is that the leaders of the DFI are all from NADTA, at this point, and the two organizations are essentially the same. If Venezuela and Morocco hadn't invaded us, you would have been able to overrun the Democrats without any coordinated resistance, while we carved up the Americans and looked smug.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
I got an award!
Anyways, I think that INES II should go to a set year (2010, anyone?). WWIII is still on, but the whole "nuking" phase is gone. They were never fired, but tensions are stil high to fire them. Also, DFI/NADTA would have their own nuclear program.
Anyways, I think that INES II should go to a set year (2010, anyone?). WWIII is still on, but the whole "nuking" phase is gone. They were never fired, but tensions are stil high to fire them. Also, DFI/NADTA would have their own nuclear program.
germanicus12
First Citizen of Rome
From Concerned Scientist, who ran simulations: While I can see that you want to destroy NADTA and the DFI, but I am not sure if you fully understand the cost of detonating Nuclear weapons. It would definetly destroy the nations that they were fired on, but if you did send all 170, or even 100, even 50 of them, this happens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter
So this war could destroy you guys as well. That said, I am done discussing the nukes, if they are fired, we can take care of them.
To FEAR's proposal, we refuse to give up Brazil, Lima Federation, the Nigerian Republic, Iberia or China. (Our part of it.) Either offer us a different treaty or add reparations.
So this war could destroy you guys as well. That said, I am done discussing the nukes, if they are fired, we can take care of them.
To FEAR's proposal, we refuse to give up Brazil, Lima Federation, the Nigerian Republic, Iberia or China. (Our part of it.) Either offer us a different treaty or add reparations.
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That's true, but they also propose to launch them at major volcanoes, including the Yellowstone Super Valcanoe. Although doing so would have the desired affect of wiping out a good portion of North America, an explosion of that mass would also mean volcanic ash spreading throughout the atmosphere, killing millions and most likely starting another ice age, which would wipe out most of the human population. And while at this point we may not know about the drastic affects and harms of nuclear weapons, science does know about the effects a volcaneo like that exploding would have on humanity. And besides Putin and a few other psychopathes, I'm sure that most government leaders would be opposed to their nation doing such a thing. Even if they tried to do it, their people would likely rise up against them before they had a chance to.
Also Imago, I'd like a response to my question on post #1964.
You were mostly right, so I didn't correct you. Each non-Morocco EC nation that wants nukes has to pay 1 ASP for the design or get it from Morocco, and only then can they start making nuclear weapons at the much-maligned price of 10 an ASP.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Only if you are a complete dork. There is always a way.
That said, I've worked far too hard to restore France's original territory. I want Iberia and will settle for nothing less. For the mad leader comment....give me liberty or give me death.
I was talking about the whole idea of people revolting over the usage of a new weapon. Its not likely.
Ah. Except the leader of Deseret announced in apocalyptic tones that the use of the new weapons would mean the end of the world, and then provided evidence to convince the scientists. That message spread far and wide, though not very far into the EC.
