IOT Organisational and Discussion Thread

[christos200]

No. I prefer Star Wars.

 

[Double A]

Because all sci-fi series are so similar.

 

[mayor]

yes, yes they are

 

[Double A]

A bunch of professional space sailors led by Professor X, a motley crew of different space sailors led by a guy with charisma up the bungalow, and a hyper dysfunctional fleet of refugees and the last human soldiers in the universe are all the same as a crazy man in a blue box.

 

[Sonereal]

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[Double A]

Can I build mechs with laser eyes?

 

[Mosher]

I'm finishing up on the ruleset of a remake of an IOT I really liked called Rise and Fall of Empires. I've made some heavy modifications to the ruleset, including moving the game from an off-world planet back to earth (I want to use the new IB2 map but the old one can do in a pinch if I have a strong itch to GM it but IB2 is still running).

Some of the key features and changes

-Corporations are a modification of TF's terrorist/NGO system from SoM3 and MP. Corporations start with no territory and overall, can't be aggressive in that fashion. Corporations are for players who wish to tinker with money, expand businesses into countries, and play a strong economic game without having to GO to war. No doubt, some corporations will find nations willing to buy a good unit blueprint or supplies....

-Factories based in provinces. Simple, clean, effective.

-Supply. This is new to the RAFOE ruleset and is replacing the leadership point system. Supply is something factories can produce. Each unit has an "ammo" stat which is the amount of supplies it drains every time it attacks. Supply can drain quickly in long, drawn out wars.

-A tested combat system where each unit has stats and dukes it out. I'm still testing this and I've worked out some kinks in the battle changes I made that made artillery hilariously overpowered.

-Prolonged battles. If an attacker invades a territory and loses the battle, it doesn't mean they're evicted from the territory! The territory is still considered contested and the longer the contesting the greater the damage to the region's infrastructure. This system creates fronts which all require supply, manpower, and knowledge of what you want. Want to hold the line? Switch out front units with high mobility or resilience units. Remember, supply is only drain from attack meaning units act as roadblocks when they lack supply! Want to push forward? High firepower, accuracy, and a lot of supply is required.

-War requires innovation. Nations and corporations can PM me a unit design (not the stats they want, the design and idea behind the unit) and I'll give them a cost. This can lead to the creation of wonder weapons. Imagine you're invading a nation using just generic units and you run into a tank destroyer unit (probably high firepower, accuracy, and probably supply costs) that lays waste to your slow moving WW1 era tanks.

A lot of things can happen.

Long live the Wehrmacht

 

[Sonereal]

-Deleted-

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

Here's a draft of a possible Medieval IOT game that starts in 500 AD:

Spoiler :

Joining the Game

To join a game choose a nation and a color, tell us about it, a flag is necessary, government, religion, people, policy and etc. Claim any ten provinces on the map, with the condition that they have to be contiguous or on the coast. In addition, please use common sense for non-contiguous countries: while a country controlling parts of Sicily and Calabria will be accepted, I will not accept a country consisting of Lapland and Morocco.

Updates

IOTs are turn based games. Each turn is 10 in-universe years. I will update every Saturday or Sunday. Stories and stats will come with each update

Roleplaying

Roleplaying is the essence of IOT. It’s how your nation develops. It’s how alliances are formed and broken. Roleplaying is very encouraged. Feel free to inhabit your nation with whoever or whatever you want, provided it fits with the setting and the etiquette listed above. PLEASE make your nation plausible for a 6th century Early Medieval setting. And not, cannot have Equestria.

Economy
1 territory is worth 1 Economic Point (EP). You can also build infrastructure (representing farms, manors, etc) by spending 2 IC.

Expansion

If you are not at war, you can send out armies to conquer territories surrounding you. They must be next to your own territories or on the coast (if it is the latter, you'll need a fleet to transport them and the army will be consumed upon annexation). If no other nation claims the same territory, they will be annexed to your empire on update. Note you cannot expand in this manner in wartime. I will post an edited map, with numbered provinces, the first post I want it with the map, but later you can just say for example 3 Europe, also I want the orders to be posted in red bold.

If there are competing claims, you can either discuss it among yourselves, or I will flip a coin. Each province gives you an income of 1 EP. Small territories and islands (i.e. territories with less than 5 pixels) cost .5 to claim and give .5 EP, some islands are in groups.

War

Combat is decided by the RNG, with each army counting as 1 point. Armies are pooled. Each army costs 1 EP and it gives you one roll in the RNG. I will sometimes have "auctions", you will bid on army upgrades and who buys it gets it. Army plans also give bonuses. You may send me secret orders. Each navy costs 5 EP, you may send your navy to destroy the enemies navy so you can invade or blockade him. If you blockade him he may lose 25% of his income, if its an island nation and you blockade him he may even lose 75%. You can only attack a province adjacent to yours, or a coastal province if you destroy his navy. If you are defending from a surprise attack, your forces will be distributed evenly across the front. If a war starts going badly, you may experience revolts.

Stability and Vassal States

Every nation has a stability level, which starts out at 5. This level goes down for every 50 territories you own, if you experience a string of defeats or declare war without what I deem to be a good causus belli, this will go down. A stability level of 4 or less will cause your nation to lose 20*Stability Level% of your wealth, while a stability level of 2 or less will cause revolts. Investing 100 EP will cause your stability to go up by 1.

You can also relinquish certain territories to become Vassal States. Your stability level will go up for every 1 Vassal State that you have of at least 10 territories. You can control what a Vassal State builds and their foreign policy, but their EPs are not counted as yours. If your stability level reaches 3, then they will rebel and declare war on you (note that this does not apply if you already started out with a SL of 3). You can vassalise independent NPCs that are bordering you (or are reasonably close to you on the coast) by spending half of their income.

 

[SouthernKing]

Good. I'd recommend you add religion in some form though.

 

[Double A]

In 500, feudalism was the talk of the town. Your game has power too centralized.

 

[SouthernKing]

In 500, feudalism was the talk of the town. Your game has power too centralized.

Feudalism didn't exist for another few centuries IIRC. It was only in the 800s-900s that feudalism actually began to matter.
In 500, most European rulers were warlord-kings. Islam doesn't exist yet, and Justinian's conquests haven't occurred yet.
Well, considering this is IOT, never mind.

 

[Tyo]

Hey, just because it's IOT doesn't mean it has to be an abomination of history.

 

[Double A]

I kind of just lump all the dark ages together. Curse you, Hollywood!

 

[Graceheart the Leopard]

Any suggestions to make this historically accurate?

 

[hoplitejoe]

How about a Viking IOT? bump the start date up to about 800 AD and everyone starts in Scandinavia then spreads through Europe via conquest.

 

[SouthernKing]

I have an ongoing medieval start NES you can look at and get ideas from

 

[bestrfcplayer]

I'm going to release a sort-of hands off IOT for my first IOT (kind of like IOTIX), either later tonight, or tomorrow (this is a preview)

Rules

To start, choose 5 provinces.

Economy
The amount of money that you have will be double the amount of provinces that you have (i.e: say you have 5 provinces. The amount of money that you will have is 10$.

(Subsection): Armies, navies and air force (along with Army,Navy and AF tech)
Armies, navies and AF wings will cost 1$ each (and you can build an unlimited amount). Army, navy and af tech is different. To move up from level 0 to level 1, you would need to pay 10$. Then, to get to level 2 from level 1 you would need to pay 20$ and so forth (the research is not banked). And, once you get to Army tech 200, you would be able to start researching nuclear weapons (which proceeds the same way as the other techs).

Expansion

To expand, you would need to pay 1$ for a province.

War.

War in this IOT is very simple. Battle will be like this: say person 1 has 4 armies (army number will be randomized) and person 2 has 5 armies. Persons 1 and 2 both have an army tech level of 5.
Results:

9 vs. 4
5 vs. 4
8 vs. 3
2 vs. 10

Person 1 grabbed 3 out of the four provinces.

(will possably do more later, going out for a bit.)

 

[SamSniped]

Sounds interesting, brfc! Good luck with the hands-off approach, however. Case in point, IOT IX

 

[GhostWriter16]

Here's a draft of a possible Medieval IOT game that starts in 500 AD:

Spoiler :

Joining the Game

To join a game choose a nation and a color, tell us about it, a flag is necessary, government, religion, people, policy and etc. Claim any ten provinces on the map, with the condition that they have to be contiguous or on the coast. In addition, please use common sense for non-contiguous countries: while a country controlling parts of Sicily and Calabria will be accepted, I will not accept a country consisting of Lapland and Morocco.

Updates

IOTs are turn based games. Each turn is 10 in-universe years. I will update every Saturday or Sunday. Stories and stats will come with each update

Roleplaying

Roleplaying is the essence of IOT. It’s how your nation develops. It’s how alliances are formed and broken. Roleplaying is very encouraged. Feel free to inhabit your nation with whoever or whatever you want, provided it fits with the setting and the etiquette listed above. PLEASE make your nation plausible for a 6th century Early Medieval setting. And not, cannot have Equestria.

Economy
1 territory is worth 1 Economic Point (EP). You can also build infrastructure (representing farms, manors, etc) by spending 2 IC.

Expansion

If you are not at war, you can send out armies to conquer territories surrounding you. They must be next to your own territories or on the coast (if it is the latter, you'll need a fleet to transport them and the army will be consumed upon annexation). If no other nation claims the same territory, they will be annexed to your empire on update. Note you cannot expand in this manner in wartime. I will post an edited map, with numbered provinces, the first post I want it with the map, but later you can just say for example 3 Europe, also I want the orders to be posted in red bold.

If there are competing claims, you can either discuss it among yourselves, or I will flip a coin. Each province gives you an income of 1 EP. Small territories and islands (i.e. territories with less than 5 pixels) cost .5 to claim and give .5 EP, some islands are in groups.

War

Combat is decided by the RNG, with each army counting as 1 point. Armies are pooled. Each army costs 1 EP and it gives you one roll in the RNG. I will sometimes have "auctions", you will bid on army upgrades and who buys it gets it. Army plans also give bonuses. You may send me secret orders. Each navy costs 5 EP, you may send your navy to destroy the enemies navy so you can invade or blockade him. If you blockade him he may lose 25% of his income, if its an island nation and you blockade him he may even lose 75%. You can only attack a province adjacent to yours, or a coastal province if you destroy his navy. If you are defending from a surprise attack, your forces will be distributed evenly across the front. If a war starts going badly, you may experience revolts.

Stability and Vassal States

Every nation has a stability level, which starts out at 5. This level goes down for every 50 territories you own, if you experience a string of defeats or declare war without what I deem to be a good causus belli, this will go down. A stability level of 4 or less will cause your nation to lose 20*Stability Level% of your wealth, while a stability level of 2 or less will cause revolts. Investing 100 EP will cause your stability to go up by 1.

You can also relinquish certain territories to become Vassal States. Your stability level will go up for every 1 Vassal State that you have of at least 10 territories. You can control what a Vassal State builds and their foreign policy, but their EPs are not counted as yours. If your stability level reaches 3, then they will rebel and declare war on you (note that this does not apply if you already started out with a SL of 3). You can vassalise independent NPCs that are bordering you (or are reasonably close to you on the coast) by spending half of their income.

I like it, and would definitely play, but experience has shown that only one update a week tends to make a game too slow to maintain itself. I'd recommend two updates a week, minimum, preferably 3.