Is Britain about to leave the EU?

[gangleri2001]

I just googled false flag and ended up with lots of results on what happened to Mrs Cox.

 

[Arakhor]

And it's now a murder inquiry. What a waste.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Well, why did this person try so much to KILL this MP? He shot her 3 times, and apparently was unsure she would die so he took a knife out of his pack and stabbed her many times in the face.
Why?

If it was a political statement, wouldn't it sort of be one even if he shot her non-fatally?

This whole story looks very strange. Any info on the killer???

RIP. Surely an utter waste. Dreadful. Utterly dreadful.

But the story of this killer's action seems very bizarre. The referendum already is tainted by all this, and i have to doubt this was just something that happened because her killer thought of attacking her now and shouting "Britain first!".

 

[classical_hero]

Now most reports have taken down the "Britain first" shouting. It seems the guy who did thi was mentally unstable and there are reports that originally it was two guys in a fight and the MP went to break it up and got killed as a result. Unfortunately such things happen far too often in England. Shame some people tried to politicise the shooting/stabbing and eventual death.

There is too much disinformation is early reports that you should be wary of what they say, until they have been either confirmed or denied in multiple sources and at different times. Too much sensationalism happens to get the story out and often the truth get discarded.

 

[HAND]

An utterly tragic and terrible murder.

Sorry to bring it up, but Gold(a potential hedge against Brexit) has been falling in price since the incident and her death: http://goldprice.org/

I'm not arguing a false flag operation, but the Remain camp may have won the referendum as some undecided voters reel back from potentially voting to leave. There is talk the suspect is mentally ill too.

 

[Arakhor]

^Well, why did this person try so much to KILL this MP?

I really have no idea, Kyriakos. It seems that the police are not looking for anyone else.

Apparently, she was a local woman (and born in the area too), not just someone brought in to stand in the constituency. Not that looking for rationality in such a frenzied assault is worthwhile, but clearly the fellow was totally unhinged.

I just googled false flag and ended up with lots of results on what happened to Mrs Cox.

Humans are disgustingly quick to turn any tragedy in political haymaking. Bonus points if it's a particularly vile conspiracy too.

Sorry to bring it up, but Gold(a potential hedge against Brexit) has been falling in price since the incident and her death: http://goldprice.org/

In the last couple of hours?? That seems a bit of a hasty decision to say that her death caused the slump.

 

[Senethro]

Now most reports have taken down the "Britain first" shouting. It seems the guy who did thi was mentally unstable and there are reports that originally it was two guys in a fight and the MP went to break it up and got killed as a result. Unfortunately such things happen far too often in England. Shame some people tried to politicise the shooting/stabbing and eventual death.

There is too much disinformation is early reports that you should be wary of what they say, until they have been either confirmed or denied in multiple sources and at different times. Too much sensationalism happens to get the story out and often the truth get discarded.

Where do you get your news from that you get such good analysis of media disinformation?

 

[HAND]

In the last couple of hours?? That seems a bit of a hasty decision to say that her death caused the slump.

Well it's impossible to prove it's causal, but the gold price does react to world events. Jo Cox was a Remain campaigner and it may have taken a little while for the implications to sink in with the markets.

 

[Arakhor]

Why would the violent death of a Remain campaigner suddenly affect the price of gold? Even in the realm of stocks and shares, that seems to make little sense.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Hand argues that the murder is presented by some media as a result of anti-EU sentiment (?), so it could turn around the vote to Remain, thus limiting the need to fall back to the only non-threatened currency? (gold; thus making gold price fall after its surge?).

I really hope there can be specific answers as to why this person killed the MP. And of course some kind of serious announcement which "might" salvage the referendum. Of course that won't be easy, even if it is the given intention of sane and caring people (quite the contrary to politicians who cant try to take advantage of death fast enough).

RIP again. Sad she died We need serious info on this murder, asap.

 

[HAND]

Why would the violent death of a Remain campaigner suddenly affect the price of gold? Even in the realm of stocks and shares, that seems to make little sense.

I'm not trying to imply the markets are rational, they are anything but! If there is speculation in the market that this could drive people to vote remain or simply not to vote to leave then this event could have an escalating effect.

The fact that we are talking about her murder in the UK/EU referendum thread, does give weight to the idea that the media, markets and voters could link the two.

Edit:

Sorry, yes as Kyriakos states, Gold is perceived to be a safe bet or a hedge against uncertainty so the price rises with uncertainty. If you watch the gold price on 24th, you will see it go through the roof with a leave result, or fall significantly with a remain result.

 

[14thwarrior]

If we leave Europe after the vote I will eat my hat. With mustard. And it's a pretty big hat too. I think the Brexit campaign has already lost and is now fabricating more and more absurd arguments to prove how little we need - not Europe, but the Brexit argument, which is clearly absurd nonsense, backed by clearly absurd people.

Probably whang on about how we need to return to the Gold Standard next. Who knows what shite they will come out with next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w



Brexit know your limits!

Best you keep to fluffy kittens eh.

 

[Takhisis]

Fluffy kittens are one of the best things in life.

Why would the violent death of a Remain campaigner suddenly affect the price of gold? Even in the realm of stocks and shares, that seems to make little sense.

People speculate that this attack against a Remain campaigner might get them a sympathy vote, then sell before gold is useless before there is nothing to hedge against.

 

[HAND]

I would say China would be more likely to have a gold backed Yuan than any country in the West and that's not likely to happen anytime soon. If the West is in obvious decline in future, China might do it to undermine or even destroy the fiat currencies such the dollar.

 

[14thwarrior]

Fluffy kittens are one of the best things in life.

People speculate that this attack against a Remain campaigner might get them a sympathy vote, then sell before gold is useless before there is nothing to hedge against.

Gold doesn't work like that. Take my word for it as a long term stock investor. It's simply another vain attempt to make an argument that is not just useless but pointless.

If we leave Europe Plutonium will become the new fish, and then the progressives who are clearly communists will buy wombats. It's all just spurious shite.

It's like listening to a play ground full of kids their argument. Ow I hurt my knee, I fell over, this would never of happened unless we were in Europe... turgid and devoid of reason.

We all want fluffy kittens though, awwwww...

 

[Takhisis]

I do not think the Chinese are idiotic enough to try and destroy fiat currencies.

 

[14thwarrior]

I do not think the Chinese are idiotic enough to try and destroy fiat currencies.

Indeed they have grown fat, bloated and rich off of the West.

Why derail a gravy train.

 

[HAND]

Gold doesn't work like that. Take my word for it as a long term stock investor. It's simply another vain attempt to make an argument that is not just useless but pointless.

If we leave Europe Plutonium will become the new fish, and then the progressives who are clearly communists will buy wombats. It's all just spurious shite.

It's like listening to a play ground full of kids their argument. Ow I hurt my knee, I fell over, this would never of happened unless we were in Europe... turgid and devoid of reason.

We all want fluffy kittens though, awwwww...

Who are you talking about? No one on the Brexit side is talking about going back to the gold standard??

 

[HAND]

I do not think the Chinese are idiotic enough to try and destroy fiat currencies.

No they won't anytime soon. Still quietly buying overtime though while the price relatively low.

 

[Arakhor]

Who are you talking about? No one on the Brexit side is talking about going back to the gold standard??

I think that was one of Farage's brilliant wheezes, which is understandable if you'd blocked out the stupidity of the idea.