Oruc
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Well if that's what you want getting out of the eu is one step closer to tearing the UK down completely.
Is Britain about to leave the EU?
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Well if that's what you want getting out of the eu is one step closer to tearing the UK down completely.
EnglishEdward
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A very fair question.
(1) The 2008 crisis impacted the continent e.g. car workers laid off in Germany.
This annoyed many over there and so they wanted better regulation.
The gamblers here have successfully lobbied all three parties and the EU
itself to obstruct the introduction of EU regulations on banking and so far the
EU has permitted the UK to turn a blind eye to the sub-prime derivatives fraud.
David Cameron's deal with the EU will make all that official.
(2) There is also a problem that companies that make money in Britain set
up spurious companies abroad so that all the profits are supposedly made
in a low or zero corporation tax country (e.g. Ireland or Luxembourg).
The so called single market means that any member state government that
tries to address this problem is blocked by (threat of) lawsuits. If the EU does
not itself address this problem; it can not be resolved within the EU states and
there is the EU agreeing with David Cameron's request to do nothing about it!
To me an EU that neuters itself in these regards is worse than useless.
Of course the UK leaving the EU does not solve these problems of illegal
gambling and false accounting of profits, but it means that a future UK
government not controlled by lobbyists would be able to resolve them locally.
One must also remember that what is offered to the UK must also be offered
to other EU member states (although not necessarily always so for those
using the Euro). The "deal" therefore opens a can of worms for all EU states.
To me there are two sensible ways forward:
(a) move to a proper EU that properly regulates banking, raises taxes from
corporations and individuals on a common basis throughout the EU and
directly employs border guards, soldiers and pilots etc.
OR
(b) leave the EU
The UK deal will likely make a difficult situation even worse.
By the way, I think that the UK public will vote to stay in the EU after
which much of David Cameron's deal will, in due course be reneged on.
The question immediately before that is national identity. I hadn't realised there was a "British" option there. That might actually mean 37m could be an underestimate of actual English people, assuming there's some people who are clearly English saying they're British instead.But of course!
And how many black people self-identify as English?
Here is the census question as it relates to ethnicity:
So tell me how that reveals how many English people there are in England?
Given that there's no way for people to indicate that they're Northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh. Rather than English.
As a matter of personal experience (even though that surely counts for nothing), I'd say I know very few people who'd tell me that they're English. But plenty who'll reveal a more or less recent Irish, Scottish or Welsh ancestry. In fact, I don't think most people know if they're English. Though they do "know" if they're not.
gay_Aleks
from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Oh, well, give them a break. The whole Union Flag would be messed up without Ireland.
Oruc
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^Nice, although Scottish and English (or Welsh or Irish) are not the same 'ethnic group' in the first place
Afaik only Scottish and Irish are close enough (?) as a group.
No that would be Scottish and English, Lowlanders were all Anglos
The question immediately before that is national identity. I hadn't realised there was a "British" option there. That might actually mean 37m could be an underestimate of actual English people, assuming there's some people who are clearly English saying they're British instead.
A much greater proportion of those living in England give their identities as 'British' than those living in other countries. Ethnicity is complicated, particularly in a place like Britain where you have lots of overlapping groups.
Mega Tsunami
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So, Boris has finally come out as an outer. What a drama queen. Nevertheless, with him as one of the leaders (and if Farage and Galloway shut up completely for the next few months) Leave has now got half a chance of winning.
Spoiler :
One good thing that could come out of a Brexit is that EU learns to handle exits a little bit better. EU need to accept the possibility and let it influence policy work. Exits from the Euro should also be possible in an orderly fashion. Well handled, a member exit could be a possibility to save EU/Euro instead of bringing about its collapse, as some are afraid of/hoping for today.
Known unknown makes sense, though - there are unknown things you know you don't know, and unknown things that you don't even know are things. Rumsfeld's line was the single most brilliant of his career. Which isn't saying much, but still.
Innumerable numbers are more like dry water, married bachelors, or gluten-free wheat bread. (maybe the last one is sort of possible, if you somehow separate the gluten from all the rest of the wheat)
You can imagine an uncountable number, which might be the same thing - it's entirely possible to have several trillion peas in a room, for example, but good luck counting them.
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