Is racism in America really classism?

It absolutely has a huge effect on the lives of blacks and Hispanics. It overwhelms nearly all other considerations. Imagine spending a portion of your life in jail for no other reason than that you are black, and a white person who had does exactly the same thing did not spend a single night in jail for it. Imagine that your father spent your childhood in prison and your mother on welfare for no reason other than the fact that you are black, and a white family would not have had that happen.

How does this not have a huge effect on how your life turns out?

Well that is total bull. You really believe that? :lol:

Most blacks are not in the prison only because they are black. More blacks are in prisons because they make more crimes. The main question is why they make more crimes. Because they have to or at least they feel they have to? Or some other reasons? Culture of crime and violence? And where did that culture come from? --- Things really are not that simple.

I dont say there is no difference between races when it comes to drugs for example, but that really does not explain a whole lot. No matter what some anti-white propaganda might say.
 
Well that is total bull. You really believe that? :lol:

Most blacks are not in the prison only because they are black. More blacks are in prisons because they make more crimes. The main question is why they make more crimes. Because they have to or at least they feel they have to? Or some other reasons? Culture of crime and violence? And where did that culture come from? --- Things really are not that simple.

I dont say there is no difference between races when it comes to drugs for example, but that really does not explain a whole lot. No matter what some anti-white propaganda might say.


A black person who has done exactly the same thing as a white person is far more likely to end up in prison, and will spend more time in prison. If you think the difference is based on the actions of the individual person, that is the real racism.
 
A black person who has done exactly the same thing as a white person is far more likely to end up in prison, and will spend more time in prison. If you think the difference is based on the actions of the individual person, that is the real racism.

Blind trust in a process people claim is fair but isn't does not equate to racism. It's ignorance.

The different treatments based on race would be racism, but ignorance itself is not fundamentally racist. There are all kinds of stupid claims a person could believe, but that doesn't make them guilty of crimes just for believing in false claims.

At least *sometimes*, the difference is in fact based on individual actions, evidenced by people with identical or near-identical demographics getting different treatment or sentences. The extent and depth that such isn't the case I'm not going to get into here.
 
My very affluent black cousin, with legit conservative family credentials, once got stopped by a cop who pulled him over, "to make sure everything was OK."

There was a white girl in the car so I mean, I guess he had to check?
You can never be too careful when it involves an expensive car and a white girl.

Blind trust in a process people claim is fair but isn't does not equate to racism. It's ignorance.
I would contend that chronic ignorance regarding a particular topic, no matter how many facts are presented with dispute it, is characteristic of a far greater issue.

But I would agree it wouldn't necessarily be racism. The person would have to feel his own race was superior or more desirable to the other race. Otherwise, it would likely just be signs of bigotry and quite possibly xenophobia.
 
[the lower classes] tend to lack the abilities to think abstractly
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I think Classicism is actually worse than racism these days. The Fatcats like to laugh at the helpless little mice and do not want them moving up the ladders. Inner city school are designed for most poor kids to fail.
 
A black person who has done exactly the same thing as a white person is far more likely to end up in prison, and will spend more time in prison. If you think the difference is based on the actions of the individual person, that is the real racism.

But if what you are saying is true, that means there should be more white people in prison. But that doesn't mean the black people already in prison don't belong there. I'm certain 99% of all people in prison belong there.

I think Classicism is actually worse than racism these days. The Fatcats like to laugh at the helpless little mice and do not want them moving up the ladders. Inner city school are designed for most poor kids to fail.

I do not want people to not move up the ladders. I just expect them to work for it. Not do it by taking my money. I went to an inner city school (Las Vegas high school back when it was on 7th street), and I did okay. I'm not rich, but I'm solidly middle class. If I had kids they would inherit a significant amount of money, and get a college education, and they would most likely do better than me and build on my wealth.
 
But if what you are saying is true, that means there should be more white people in prison. But that doesn't mean the black people already in prison don't belong there. I'm certain 99% of all people in prison belong there.

The number of people in prison that belong there is certainly not 99%. Our justice system isn't anywhere near that accurate, even if you discount unequal sentencing. Years in prison for non-violent drug possession charges is certainly not justified.
 
The number of people in prison that belong there is certainly not 99%. Our justice system isn't anywhere near that accurate, even if you discount unequal sentencing. Years in prison for non-violent drug possession charges is certainly not justified.

That is a problem of the laws being not what we want them to be. Blame this on the politicians, not the court system. Maybe if the President would stop this war on drugs, we wouldn't have this problem.
 
It gets far less accurate the less affluent you are. This is particularly true with minorities.
 
While racism does exist, I personally believe it is primarily classism.

When someone is poor they have many fewer opportunities in life.

In the US, African-Americans are disproportionately poor compared to whites.

There are reasons for this outside of racism in my opinion but in any case, those who are poorer are more prone to crime and more likely to be convicted due to their inability to hire a "better" lawyer.

A similar argument can be made for every other statistic I can conceive of that seems to paint the picture that whites are treated more favorably.

Where classism ends and racism begins I don't know.
 
It ends when blacks smoke pot at about the same percentage as whites but account for over 30% of the arrests.

It ends when nearly 70% of the people who have been exonerated by DNA evidence are black.

It ends when affluent blacks are stopped far more frequently for doing nothing but while driving while black, and stalked by mall cops far more when shopping while black.
 
That is a problem of the laws being not what we want them to be. Blame this on the politicians, not the court system. Maybe if the President would stop this war on drugs, we wouldn't have this problem.


Both are true. The laws are discriminatory. But the courts are as well. When blacks and whites get caught doing the exact same thing, it's the black that gets the prison sentence.
 
It ends when blacks smoke pot at about the same percentage as whites but account for over 30% of the arrests.
Could this not be explained by money as well? And can you provide statistics saying the marijuana usage rate is the same?

It ends when nearly 70% of the people who have been exonerated by DNA evidence are black.
Could this not be explained by money as well...?

It ends when affluent blacks are stopped far more frequently for doing nothing but while driving while black, and stalked by mall cops far more when shopping while black.
Well, this one can't be explained by money. But can you provide empirical evidence to prove it is true?
 
Could this not be explained by money as well? And can you provide statistics saying the marijuana usage rate is the same?
You don't think successful affluent people smoke pot? Obama just quoted it in his recent speech about "stand your ground" and institutional racism in the criminal justice system.

Racial Disparity In Marijuana Arrests: Black Americans Are Nearly 4 Times More Likely Than Whites To Be Arrested For Possession Of Pot

According to a new study from the American Civil Liberties Union, which tracked marijuana arrests by race and county in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, black and white Americans use marijuana at about the same rate. However, blacks were nearly four times as likely than whites to be arrested on charges of marijuana possession in 2010.

In Washington D.C., Iowa, Minnesota and Illinois, blacks were 7.5 to 8.5 times more likely than whites to be arrested for possessing pot.

Most of the people being arrested weren't drug kingpins. Fifty-two percent of all drug arrests in 2010 were for marijuana, and according to the ACLU's analysis, most of the arrestees were in possession of small amounts of the drug.

Could this not be explained by money as well...?
If you can show that blacks are 6 times more likely to be poor than whites.

Well, this one can't be explained by money. But can you provide empirical evidence to prove it is true?
Obama also mentioned it in his speech that he as been a victim of racial profiling while shoppoing. Do you really think that driving while black and shopping while black are figments of their collective imagination?

Quantitative evidence reported in several states confirms this nationwide data:

A study in Arizona shows that during 2006-2007, the state highway patrol was significantly more likely to stop African Americans and Hispanics than Whites on all the highways studied, while Native Americans and persons of Middle Eastern descent were more likely to be stopped on nearly all the highways studied. The highway patrol was 3.5 times more likely to search a stopped Native American than a White, and 2.5 times more likely to search a stopped African American or Hispanic.22

he Arizona study also shows that racial profiling is counterproductive and a misallocation of scarce law enforcement resources. Although Native Americans, Hispanics, Middle Easterners, and Asians were far more likely to be stopped and searched than Whites on Arizona's highways, Whites who were searched were more likely to be transporting drugs, guns, or other contraband. While African Americans were twice as likely as Whites to be stopped and searched, the rates of contraband seizures for the two groups were comparable.23

A February 2009 study of traffic stops and searches in West Virginia found a similar pattern of racial profiling. The data reveal that African-American motorists were 1.64 times more likely to be stopped than White drivers. Hispanics were 1.48 times more likely to be stopped. After the traffic stop, non-Whites were more likely to be arrested, yet police in West Virginia obtained a significantly higher contraband hit rate for White drivers than minorities.24

In Minnesota, a statewide study of racial profiling during 2002 found that African-American, Hispanic, and Native American drivers were all stopped and searched more often than Whites, yet contraband was found more frequently in searches of White drivers’ cars. Had all drivers been stopped at the same rates in the 65 local jurisdictions reporting data, 22,500 more Whites would have been stopped, while 18,800 fewer African Americans and 5,800 fewer Hispanics would have been stopped.25

In Illinois, data collected after the 2003 passage of the Illinois Traffic Stops Statistics Act, sponsored by then-Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, shows similar patterns of racial profiling by law enforcement authorities. The number of consent searches after traffic stops of African-American and Hispanic motorists was more than double that of Whites. The consent searches found White motorists were twice as likely to have contraband.26

A 2005 study analyzing data gathered statewide in Texas reveals disproportionate traffic stops and searches of African Americans and Hispanics, even though law enforcement authorities were more likely to find contraband on Whites.27


Link to video.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_while_black

In his 2003 paper "Racial Profiling by Store Clerks and Security Personnel in Retail Establishments: An Exploration of 'Shopping While Black'" criminologist Shaun L. Gabbidon wrote that the majority of false arrest complaints filed in a retail setting in the United States are filed by African-Americans.[9]

Researchers who conducted in-depth interviews with 75 black people living in black neighbourhoods in New York City and Philadelphia found that 35% reported receiving consistently negative treatment when shopping in white neighbourhoods, compared with 9% who said they received consistently negative treatment in their own neighbourhood.[2]

In 1995, a young black man shopping at an Eddie Bauer store in suburban Washington, D.C., was accused of having stolen the shirt he was wearing, and was told he would need to leave it behind before leaving the store. He filed a federal civil rights lawsuit alleging "consumer racism", and was awarded $1 million in damages.[10] In 2000, a black man named Billy J. Mitchell was awarded $450,000 in compensatory and punitive damages from Dillard's, after being arrested despite having done nothing wrong. Also in 2000, a black woman unsuccessfully sued Citibank after she was detained for no good reason while making large purchases with her Citibank Visa card.[11]

In 1992, R&B singer-songwriter R. Kelly told Jet magazine that when he appeared at a Chicago shopping mall to sign autographs, "the security guards took one look at the way I was dressed and the fact that I am a young Black man and thought I was a shoplifter."[16]

In 2001, Oprah Winfrey told Good Housekeeping magazine about how she and a black companion were turned away from a store while white people were being allowed in, allegedly because she and her friend reminded the clerks of black transsexuals who had earlier tried to rob it.[17] And in 2005, Winfrey was refused service at the Parisian luxury store Hermès as the store closed for the evening, in what her spokesperson described as "Oprah's 'Crash' moment", a reference to the 2004 movie about racial and social tensions in Los Angeles.[18]

In the 2007 biography Condoleezza Rice: An American Life, author Elisabeth Bumiller describes two "shopping while black" type incidents: one when Rice was six and a department store clerk tried to keep her mother from using a whites-only fitting room, and another when Rice as an adult was shown cheap jewellery by a Palo Alto clerk, rather than the "better earrings" she had asked for.[19]

In 2001, the American Civil Liberties Union convinced the United States Drug Enforcement Administration to repay $7,000 that it had seized from a black businessman in the Omaha, Nebraska, airport on the false theory that it was drug money; the ACLU called it "flying while black".[23] A pain specialist who treats sickle-cell disease patients at Manhattan's Beth Israel Medical Center reported that for many years doctors forced African American sickle-cell sufferers to endure pain because they assumed that blacks would become addicted to medication, and Time magazine labeled this "ailing while black".[24][25]


Link to video.
 
You don't think successful affluent people smoke pot? Obama just quoted it in his recent speech about "stand your ground" and institutional racism in the criminal justice system.

They probably don't smoke it and if they do they're probably less likely to get caught.

If you can show that blacks are 6 times more likely to be poor than whites.
Tim Wise actually talked about it quite a bit in his book Colorblind that blacks are much more likely to be poor than whites, he reasoned it was true because of racism. While I think it is mostly because of racism in the past, it is possible.

Obama also mentioned it in his speech that he as been a victim of racial profiling while shoppoing. Do you really think that driving while black and shopping while black are figments of their collective imagination?

You should never make an argument based off the idea that if a lot of people say something it must be true. By that logic, us Catholics are right and you heathens ought to convert like yesterday :p

In any case, fine you've convinced me that racial profiling exists to a certain extent. Money is still on my side for most other things.
 
They probably don't smoke it and if they do they're probably less likely to get caught.
They may indeed be less likely to smoke pot. But when it is discovered they do, the police typically ignore it.

Tim Wise actually talked about it quite a bit in his book Colorblind that blacks are much more likely to be poor than whites, he reasoned it was true because of racism. While I think it is mostly because of racism in the past, it is possible.
They are more likely to be poor, but they are clearly not that overwhelmingly poor compared to whites to explain all the quite obvious institutional racism in the US.

You should never make an argument based off the idea that if a lot of people say something it must be true. By that logic, us Catholics are right and you heathens ought to convert like yesterday :p
I am clearly making an argument that racial profiling exists in this country, as claimed by numerous people with impeccable credentials such as Barack Obama and many others. And I apparently even convinced you:

In any case, fine you've convinced me that racial profiling exists to a certain extent. Money is still on my side for most other things.
If is a far greater problem than racial profiling as evidenced by the multitude of facts, some of which I have given above. But it does have much to do with poverty so the problems overlap:

Social Inequality and Public Policy - Professor Isaac Martin - March 2009

Institutional racism is a form of racism that exists subtly and beneath the conspicuous actions and policies of structures and institutions. For the purposes of this paper, “institution” refers to an establishment or governing body that creates or sets rules, policies, or standards in society. These institutions produce a societal order and hierarchy, impacting human behavior with its power to overshadow individuals’ own potential and intentions. “Racism” refers to the belief, and acts in conjunction with this belief, that particular races are innately different and inferior to others. Yet, beyond this compound definition, this research paper regards institutional racism as not only the deliberate actions of institutions, but also the ignorant and apathetic actions of institutions in perpetuating racism.

In this paper, I plan to discuss this particular form of racism, debating its contributions to the issue of poverty. I argue the way in which institutions can keep people in poverty or even force people into poverty in the United States. I believe this research is important, as institutional racism often goes under the radar. Often, only field research or investigation reveals the subversive tactics of institutional racism. In addition, it normatively goes unrecognized by the public and even those who are directly affected by it. As a result, this form of discrimination, whether deliberate or incognizant, is more difficult to curtail. These methods are safeguarded by the institutions themselves, falling under an umbrella of legitimate policies and actions. With relation to poverty, institutional racism can keep certain races in a perpetual condition of poverty, denying them the opportunities and capabilities to rise above their poor status.

In the sphere of criminal justice, the institutions of prisons and courts create a system that purports racism and contributes to poverty in the United States. In this system, institutional racism takes root in the factors that generate the overwhelming majority of minorities in prison. In Katherine Pettus’s book Felony Disenfranchisement in America, she argues that the institution of prisons and the criminal justice system are a product of the racist roots upon which America was built (Pettus 151). She discusses the United States’s criminal justice policy as one that accentuates and breeds groups of domination and subordination. The same laws broken by white people are not handled through the criminal justice system, affirming that the law and the prisons were not created for white people in mind, but for minorities (151). In conjunction with this structure and composition of prisons, the geographic location of the prison creates and sustains disparate groups that institutionalize segregation. In society, prisons “perform a kind of social, economic, and political ‘magic’ by ‘disappearing’ large number of poor and minority people” (Rhodes 67). Statistics of the racial makeup in prisons further confirm these statements, as in the United States, more than 50 percent of the prisoners are African American, and 75 percent of the prisoners are people of color (67). Prisons remain on the periphery of white counties, isolated from the metropolis but still set in stark contrast to white suburbia and the cosmopolitan lifestyle (Pettus 20). The disenfranchised felons and ex-felons remain on the periphery of society, isolated from the opportunities within the metropolis.

Institutionally, the courts implement additional racist practices that contribute to this pervading disparity in prison demographic. The jury selection process, for example, results in primarily white juries. Customarily, this process relies on the exclusion of those with minimal educational credentials, hourly wage earners, and low-income individuals (Feagin and Feagin 141). As the courts themselves provide poor compensation, many low-income minorities cannot afford to leave their jobs to attend jury duty (142). Due to this condition, juries remain disproportionately white. Consequently, there exists an unequal representation of race and class in the courtroom, potentially increasing the number of minorities institutionalized in prisons.

In addition to the institutional racism prevalent in the criminal justice system, education institutions like the school board and test-maker organizations also establish racist policies that perpetuate poverty in society. Through modes of cultural and linguistic ignorance, institutions pay inadequate attention to the respective needs of minorities in the education system. This mode continues from basic to college education, as institutions continue to tailor their best educational resources and opportunities to those of the white middle class. In “Institutionalized Racism and the Education of Blacks,” Spears discusses the educational performance of black students. He argues that the poor academic achievement by black students is partially due to educational systems’ ignorance of their various linguistic and cultural differences (Spears 128). Spears states that the same criteria and practices applied to white students cannot simply be applied to black students. For each individual, one must take into consideration the background and manner in which they are best suited to learn and grasp material. The decision makers of school curriculums in the inner city do not understand the ways in which discrimination and deprivation alter how students learn and mature. Black students are victimized by the institutions that disregard their educational needs, and comparing their performance to white students who lack this victimization by institutionalized racism is a false evaluation. Specifically in regard to African Americans, this racism denies the same opportunities and services by which they can achieve a good life.

Test-maker organizations also perpetuate racism by ignoring the cultural differences of low-income and minority students. These organizations create tests that do not take into consideration the cultural, linguistic, geographic, social, and economic differences of black students, for example. The inferior education provided in these inner city schools creates difficulties in passing written or standardized tests for minority students (Knowles and Prewitt 61). In continuing education, university admission offices provide entrance to students who score high on a test that is geared towards white middle class high schools, not the inner city schools in which minority population is high (5). Even if these universities do not purposely implement racist practices, they unwittingly grant the white, middle, and affluent classes a higher education and a more financially secure future. The structures of education fail to prepare all students through methods of racial and class segregation, and minorities themselves lack the power to make these structural changes.

In the education system, school boards also exhibit forms of institutional racism by placing students in academic tracks based on ability. In “Tracking: From Theory to Practice,” Maureen T. Hallinan discusses the negative effects of placing children in these different tracks. She argues that this process fosters segregation, and the schools and school boards fail to take action to instate measures that prevent this segregation based on race, social status, and class (Hallinan 84). The racism prevalent in these tracking systems is evident through the overrepresentation of African Americans and Latinos in the lower tracks. Many schools in predominantly poor and minority neighborhoods offer a fewer percentage of higher track classes, in comparison to those in affluent white and Asian populated areas (Oakes 229). In addition, higher tracks vary across racial and economic lines. In schools with more minority and lower-income populations, evidence shows a disparity in the quality of resources and opportunities offered. For example, an Algebra 2 class in a minority-rich neighborhood might be taught by a less qualified teacher with a less rigorous curriculum than the same class in a predominantly white, prosperous neighborhood (229). Teachers themselves gravitate towards the white, affluent communities that offer higher pay and esteem, leaving the less wealthy communities with less-qualified teachers. Furthermore, high competition in the wealthier schools results in minority students having greater chances of college-track enrollment at all-minority schools. As a consequence, minority students receive an inferior quality of education in comparison, hindering the acquisition of human capital with which to compete in the labor market.

Repeatedly, spatial and geographic orientation is seen to either harm or foster a good quality of life, whether it concerns prisons and their peripheral location, or the inferior education prevalent in the inner city schools. Institutions within the urban planning sector, such as the city government, also influence the geographic location of individuals, defining zones and setting ordinances. Proximity to certain areas impacts one’s capability to obtain a job and remain in healthy living and working conditions. Primarily, the lack of consideration and recognition of the effects of zoning and urban planning reflects in the continuing poverty of minorities. The polarization of jobs and housing, for example, negatively affects the minorities who live in the metropolitan centers. According to Knowles and Prewitt in Institutional Racism in America, the “ghetto resident is left without the means to reach most jobs,” as city governments fail to provide low-cost, adequate transportation to the outlying areas where income potential is higher (Knowles and Prewitt 21). The majority of well-paying jobs follow the white middle class into the areas in which they live. This geographic mismatch leaves them outside the “major web of recruitment,” which occurs in the suburban spheres of economic development (Feagin and Feagin 47). As a result, those in the inner city are left with the low paying jobs that cannot suffice for a good quality of life.

Institutional racism rests within the structures of America’s society. Through the seemingly legitimate actions of these institutions, the effects of this form of racism continue to act as a pervading cause of poverty. Spatial relations, one of the most significant criteria in the status of poverty among individuals, often determines the wealth of opportunities and resources available to people. Whether this locality relates to one’s job, housing, or other aspects, geographic mismatch decidedly contributes to the perpetuation of poverty. In the sectors of criminal justice, education, and urban planning, the location of the prisons, the inner city schools, and the layout of homes and jobs create a web of disparity between minorities and the white, affluent class. The overt, subtle, and even ignorant actions of institutions in these sectors further reproduce poverty along racial lines, establishing conditions in which minorities are set at a considerable disadvantage in society.

But institutional racism isn't just a problem in this country. It is pervasive in many others as well.

Amnesty International: End institutional racism in the Austrian criminal justice system

Academia.edu: Institutional racism in Ireland: ethnic and religious minorities in criminal justice and social care provision systems.

The Guardian: Amnesty attacks racism in criminal justice system
 
That is a problem of the laws being not what we want them to be. Blame this on the politicians, not the court system. Maybe if the President would stop this war on drugs, we wouldn't have this problem.

You say that as if he has the power to do such a thing.
 
That "experiment" in the store violates all sorts of ethical considerations for "research" on humans. Good thing it's in entertainment rather than academia I guess. >.<

Regarding pot usage and catch/arrest rates I think that has a large class element to it that may indeed be larger or at least as significant as the racial element. The racial element does make greater police scrutiny more likely, so that has a huge impact. The more well-to-do are also more likely to have the private space to consume an illegal substance away from the public and with entertainment options available. Hence, "look it's just some pot I wasn't making trouble." Which is harder to pull off if you are lower income and you get caught doing so in public or driving around since your only private space might indeed be your car. The differences in sentencing for the same thing though, I dunno what else to attribute that to aside from persistent and systemic racism. I still think we should rename the war on drugs the war on blacks and mexicans. It's more accurate as a term.
 
That "experiment" in the store violates all sorts of ethical considerations for "research" on humans. Good thing it's in entertainment rather than academia I guess. >.<
If you think that was bad in that regard, then you wouldn't believe some of the psychological experiments which have been conducted in the past. Here are a few of the more notable disasters:

TOP 10 FAILED PSYCHOLOGY EXPERIMENTS

Ted Kaczynski was the victim of number 3...

Regarding pot usage and catch/arrest rates I think that has a large class element to it that may indeed be larger or at least as significant as the racial element.
The facts do not suggest that is the case. Nor do the statements by many cops that they deliberately use pot smoking to make sure blacks "get into the system" where they can then be profiled and tracked without fear of lawsuits or other repercussions because they are now "known criminals".

Ms. HUFFMAN: The application of the law is absolutely the issue. That's why I believe it's a civil rights issue. Just like they do racial profiling against blacks, this is another form of racial profiling, where they stop young black kids. They get them into the system for the fingerprint and the misdemeanor, then they already have them identified and ready to go to to the next level.
And now it is even occurring in the school systems:

With Police in Schools, More Children in Court

Yet the most striking impact of school police officers so far, critics say, has been a surge in arrests or misdemeanor charges for essentially nonviolent behavior &#8212; including scuffles, truancy and cursing at teachers &#8212; that sends children into the criminal courts.

&#8220;There is no evidence that placing officers in the schools improves safety,&#8221; said Denise C. Gottfredson, a criminologist at the University of Maryland who is an expert in school violence. &#8220;And it increases the number of minor behavior problems that are referred to the police, pushing kids into the criminal system.&#8221;

Nationwide, hundreds of thousands of students are arrested or given criminal citations at schools each year. A large share are sent to court for relatively minor offenses, with black and Hispanic students and those with disabilities disproportionately affected, according to recent reports from civil rights groups, including the Advancement Project, in Washington, and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, in New York.

Such criminal charges may be most prevalent in Texas, where police officers based in schools write more than 100,000 misdemeanor tickets each year, said Deborah Fowler, the deputy director of Texas Appleseed, a legal advocacy center in Austin. The students seldom get legal aid, she noted, and they may face hundreds of dollars in fines, community service and, in some cases, a lasting record that could affect applications for jobs or the military.

The differences in sentencing for the same thing though, I dunno what else to attribute that to aside from persistent and systemic racism. I still think we should rename the war on drugs the war on blacks and mexicans. It's more accurate as a term.
At least we agree on this...

Mainstream recreational marijuana use began in the United States at the turn of the last century, courtesy of Mexican immigrants coming across the border to look for work in the American southwest. But white Americans weren&#8217;t feeling very welcoming and were looking for excuses for their racist hatred of Mexicans, so rumors began that pot gave these Mexicans superhuman strength and turned them into crazed murderers. Despite the fact that neither was true, these stereotypes would last for decades. Starting in 1914, local laws began popping up criminalizing marijuana &#8211; often not so much as a way of controlling pot usage as it was a way of controlling Mexicans. One Texas state senator said on the floor of the senate, &#8220;All Mexicans are crazy and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.&#8221; One Montana state legislator said, &#8220;Give one of those Mexican beet field workers a couple of puffs on a marijuana cigarette and he thinks he is in the bullring at Barcelona.&#8221; From 1914 to 1937, twenty-seven states passed anti-pot laws.
 
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