ISDG 2012 - Server Announcements, Connection Issues and Questions

[2metraninja]

Apparently, we will need a reload from the last turn (turn 77) as we missed our turn due to inaccessibility to the server.

 

[2metraninja]

Paused the game to give a hint to all players loging in there is a problem and the game will be reloaded, not to make them play their turn twice.

 

[2metraninja]

I am however not sure what is the procedure for requesting a reload and if it is needed at all the admin to have his say on such a clear case where connection problems were involved.

 

[2metraninja]

Actually, when looking up the official rules of ISDG2012, I have seen this:

g. Game Reloads - All game reloads will trigger an automatic game pause (game admin will post such in game pause thread) for a minimum of 24 hours or until each team that logged in to the game after the reload point has stated in the game pause thread that they are ready to continue.

So the game should have been paused after the reload that happened some 10 hours ago. I think the case is clear. Still PMed r_rolo1 to have his admin say.

 

[mzprox]

If reload needs to be done I suggest to reload Inca's turn, so only they need to repeat theirs, but the rest of don't.

 

[2metraninja]

If reload needs to be done I suggest to reload Inca's turn, so only they need to repeat theirs, but the rest of don't.

Absolutely. I would have suggested the same.

 

[2metraninja]

Maybe r_rolo1 will be not around soon and in order to keep the game going, can I ask all teams for unanimous vote the game to be reloaded to the last autosave before the turn switch so we can simply move on?

The background is (for those who did not read all) is that we missed a turn due to server connection issues.

When voting, please, state which team you vote for.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Caledorn]

With the ISDG paused and under consideration for a reload, this is not so important for the ISDG itself - but for the other PBs I'm hosting, please be advised that I will take down all games for several hours tonight to debug and try to isolate the issues I'm having with my network.

I will save the games when I disconnect, and reload from those saves when I am done (including the ISDG, which will still be paused then). I am unable to pause the games, but I will notify again here in the thread when the games are back up. Hopefully Civstats will be working again when I am done.

 

[mzprox]

if it's up to vote then team Apolyton supports reload.

 

[plako]

I've no official position in this game, but after checking the CFC's thread I suggest just reloading. I don't see how r_rolo could make any other desicion.

 

[2metraninja]

You can actually be quite good deputy (elected) admin if we dont hear from r_rolo1 for long times in future too - all teams having vested in you the trust to create the map and because of this you being deprived from playing in the game and being granted access to few private forums, I think this is a good ground for you being impartial person and we use you as deputy admin.

 

[mzprox]

I agree, no need to vote, this situation is handled within the rules (I mean there should have been a pause). so just reload asap and geton with it

 

[2metraninja]

Yeah, lets get this game move again, the issue is handled pretty obvious by the rules (apparently how ironic - the effort to speed the game lead to slowing it down - hopefully only today this was the case.)

Cal, can we get a reload and a pause please?

Then CFC (and other if there are any who could not play because of the server issue) must play their turns and just then the Germans to play and finish their turn, thus advancing the game to turn 78.

Germans, be ready to replay your turn AFTER all other teams are done with their turns.

 

[ruff_hi]

You can actually be quite good deputy (elected) admin if we dont hear from r_rolo1 for long times in future too - all teams having vested in you the trust to create the map and because of this you being deprived from playing in the game and being granted access to few private forums, I think this is a good ground for you being impartial person and we use you as deputy admin.

That is not a bad idea (plako as admin assistant / deputy). I'll check with my RB colleagues re a formal team comment.

 

[Caledorn]

I am starting my maintenance cycle now, so all games will be unavailable for an unknown amount of time.

On the matter of the reload, I am a bit reluctant about it, as I am part of the team that has requested the reload. I do not wish to be regarded as partial in the matter, so I would appreciate more feedback from the teams before proceeding with doing that. I know this means the process will take longer, but I hope you can all appreciate that I value my reputation.

I will consider it while I'm doing the maintenance work, however. Hopefully some more teams will have been given the opportunity to comment by then.

 

[Jerry Demmings]

Civforum.de has no problem with a reload either. We will simply repeat our turn if it's done.

 

[Caledorn]

Okay. Everything seems to work as it should now after I have completed my maintenance. Let's hope it stays that way.

I have reloaded the game, as there seems to be a general consensus that the rules allow for it since the game was not paused. But do note that I have kept a backup of the save that I did before performing the maintenance just in case there are any objections to this reload and we need admin intervention.

Do note, however, that the game is currently not paused! There is 4 hours 20 minutes left on the timer. If someone could log in, and pause the game, and notify in this thread about it I would be very grateful.

The game was reloaded from the login done yesterday at 00:51 (GMT+1) by Jerry Demmings.

 

[mzprox]

I paused the game

 

[ToxoXI]

Civforum.de has no problem with a reload either. We will simply repeat our turn if it's done.

:b:

(you sure you don't want to do something else ... )

No problems from WPC for the relaod.

And sorry about being cranky last evening. Too much wine.

 

[r_rolo1]

@Caledorn

Sorry for the delay in the response, but I only checked the email now Anyway it seems you have things sorted out ( I was going to request a reload anyway )

@ All

Ruff requested to me that there are some teams that still have to give their vote on the Game Clock Reduction Vote ...

Proposal Summary Update

Still have to hear from some teams ...

                A-24hr   B-35Hr
Apolyton          YES      ?
Civfanatics       ?        ?
Civforum.de       NO       ?
CivFR             ?        YES
CivPlayers        ?        ?
Realms Beyond     YES      YES
Spanish Apolyton  YES      ?
UniversCiv        ?        ?
WePlayCiv         YES      ?

Spoiler Team Votes :

Please let me know if I have misunderstood, missed or misrepresented any team votes.

So , please do