LK169, Italy, CCM 2.5, AWM

[Jersey Joe]

Teaser, sorry no pictures

Last turn I got a settler from the Palace and this turn I got the Oracle's settler with 3 turns of Study remaining on Navigation (which is at the minimum learning time of 4 turns at 30% research).

Any suggestions on where to build new towns?

 

[Jersey Joe]

Here are the 2 sites I am sending the settlers to.

With Red I figure since mining a plain is the same as mining a forest, all the Forests could be chopped for 180 shields which should help build 3 -4 buildings. Of course I do not know where I am getting the worker turns from.

 

[Greebley]

I do like yellow - NIce site and Sheepish Pig Iron is a major producer and shouldn't be a front line city.

Red seems fine with a road from Brundisium for mutual support. The area near Elephantium's Blue dot would be a contender if the slow growth of the city (until rails) was an issue. Going for the forest cuts seems fine

 

[Elephantium]

In light of the worker turn issue, I'd almost rather put new cities:

* between Casblanca and Tangier
* maybe one north of Casblanca
* W of Hangchow
* W of Palmyra
* S of Lutetia
* S of Virconium
* S of Hispalis

 

[Jersey Joe]

Elephantium, I like your suggestions about the area outside our borders south of Virconium and Hispalis and sent a Spearman to explore the coast where the fog is. Also, I was reminded, by Greebley, about your Blue dot.
When we get out as far as Casablanca and Tangier there is a great deal of corruption.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Continuing 1824 AD: Do some MM. Plus, change engineers, not building anything, and many scientists into tax collectors. Ballistics still due in 1 turn.

IBT: By Tangier, Medieval Infantry killed by Indo-Chinese Cuirassier (0, 1).
We learn the secrets of Ballistics. We switch the tax collectors back to scientists and begin researching Bastion Fortifications, due in 4 turns.

1826 AD:
Defending Huamanga: Crossbow kills Austria-Hungarian Swordsman (1, 1); Knights kill 14 Spearmen (15, 1); Knight kills Warrior (16, 1); Knights kill 2 Archer (18, 1); Camel Musketeer kills Archer (19, 1);

By Tangier, Knight of the Realm kills Indo-Chinese Cuirassier (20, 1); Knight of the Realm kills Late Pike (21, 1); Missionary kills Late Pike (22, 1).
Near Nineveh: Knights kill 3 Arabian Crossbows (25, 1); Bombard kills Crossbow (26, 1).
Near Ica Cuirassier kills Japanese Siege Crossbow (27, 1).

1828 AD:
Defending Huamanga: Knights kill 4 Austria-Hungarian Archers (31, 1); Knights kill 2 Swordsmen (33, 1); Medieval Infantry kill 2 Spearmen (35, 1); Cuirassier kills Archer (36, 1); Knight of the Realm kills 2 Swordsmen (38, 1); Cuirassier kill 2 Swordsman (40, 1); Camel Musketeer kills Swordsman (41, 1); Musketman kills Swordsman (42, 1); Cuirassier kill 3 Catapults (45, 1); Crossbow kills Swordsman (46, 1); Cuirassier kill 2 Ballista (48, 1); Knight kills Ballista (49, 1).

Near Plainville, Cannon kills Maghreb Crossbow (50, 1).

Annexing Zarzis, Knight killed by Maghreb Late Pike (50, 2); Knights kill 2 Late Pike (52, 2). The city is annexed.
Enslaver captures Medieval Infantry (53, 2).

Near Nippur, Knight kills Austria-Hungarian Catapult (54, 2).
Defending Nineveh: Knights kill 5 Arabian Crossbows and a Footknight (60, 2);
Near Tangier: Bombard kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (61, 2); Knights kill 4 Musketeers (65, 2); Knight killed by Rider (65, 3); Knight kills Rider (66, 3); Knight of the Realm kills Rider (67, 3).

IBT: Near Nineveh, Musketeer kills Arab Crossbow (68, 3).

1830 AD: Great Leader rushes Observatory in Atlanta.
Defending Huamanga: Knight kills Austria-Hungarian Horse Archer (69, 3); Knight kills Chariot (70, 3); Knight of the Realm kills 2 Spearman (72, 3); Musketman kills Archer (73, 3); Cuirassier kills Archer (74, 3); Knight kills Spearman (75, 3) Knights kill 2 Swordsman (77, 3); Missionary converts Swordsman (78, 3).

West of Krakow, Musketeer kills Indian Pike (79, 3).
Northwest of Torun, Knight kills Japanese Siege Crossbow (80, 3).
North of Hippo,Knight kills Maghreb Crossbow (81, 3).
Near Nineveh, Knight kills Indian Spearman (82, 3); Enslaver kills Golden Archer (83, 3). Camel Musketeer kills Arab Medieval Infantry (84, 3); Cuirassier kills Crossbow (85, 3).
West of Nippur, Missionary kills Indian Spearman (86, 3).
Near Zarzis: Cannon kills Maghreb Crossbow (87, 3); Knights kill 2 Crossbows (89, 3). Knight kills Indo-Chinese Rider (90, 3); Knight kills Musketeer (91, 3).

IBT: South of Nineveh, Musketman killed by Japanese Mounted Samarai (91, 4).
Defending Zarzis: A Musketman, a Praetorian, and a Medieval Infantry are killed by Indo-Chinese Riders (91, 7).
Near Utica Enslave gets lucky and kills a Crossbow (92, 7).

1832 AD:
Defending Zaris: Cannon kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (93, 7); Knights of the Realm kill 2 Riders (95, 7); Cannon kills Rider (96, 7); Knight kills Rider (97, 7). Knight kills Canadian Camel Musketeer (98, 7).

Near Tangier, Knight kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (99, 7); Bombard kills Musketeer (100, 7) and we get a Great Leader. The Great Leader builds a Hospital in Marrakesh.

Near Torun: Cuirassier kills Japanese Pikeman (101, 7); Cuirassier killed by Japanese Pikeman (101, 8); Cuirassier kills Medieval Infantry (102, 8).
Defending Nippur: Knights kill 3 Austria-Hungarian Archers (105, 8); Knight kills Swordsman (106, 8). Knight kills Arab Pike (107, 8); Cuirassier kills Crossbow (108, 8).

IBT: We learn the secrets of Bastion Fortifications and begin researching Navigation, due in 4 turns at 30% research.

1834 AD:
Defending Eulbar: Knight of the Realm kills Austria-Hungarian Horse Archer and a Chariot (110, 8).
Defending Torun: Knights kill 2 Japanese Pike (112, 8); Cuirassier kills Pike (113, 8); Cuirassier kill 2 Crossbows (115, 8); Knight of the Realm kills 2 Crossbows (117, 8); Knight kills Pike (118, 8); Cuirassier kills Mounted Samarai (119, 8).

Near Rocky Mountain High, Cuirassier kill 2 Maghreb Crossbows (121, 8).
Defending Zarzis: Knight kills Canadian Crossbow (122, 8). Knight kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (123, 8); Cuirassier kills Musketeer (123, 8)

1836 AD:
Near Zarzis: Knight kills Indo-Chinese Camel Musketeer (124, 8); Missionary converts Rider (125, 8).
Near Torun: Cuirassier kills Japanese Pike (126, 8); Cuirassier kill 3 Medieval Infantry (129, 8); Knight of the Realm kills 2 Crossbow (131, 8).

Annexing Zariqum: Cuirassier kills Arab Late Pike (132, 8); Cuirassier killed by Late Pike (132, 9); Cuirassier kills Late Pike (133, 9). The city is annexed.
Camel Musketeer kills Japanese Pike (134, 9); Knight kills Pike (135, 9).

Defending Nineveh; Musketeer kills Arab Crossbow (136, 9); Cuirassier kill 3 Crossbow (139, 9). Cannon kills Indian Spearman (140, 9); Cuirassier kills Crossbow (141, 9); Enslaver kills Archer (142, 9).

Near Rocky Mountain High, Cuirassier kill 2 Maghreb Crossbows (144, 9).
Near Ica Cuirassier kills Indo-Chinese Knight (145, 9).

IBT: Near Zariqum, Musketeer killed by Arab Crossbow (146, 10).

1838 AD:
Near Zaris: Knight kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (147, 10); Knight killed by Musketeer (147, 11); Missionary converts Musketeer (148, 11); Cannon kills Musketeer (149, 11) and we get a Great Leader. The Great Leader rushes an Observatory in Plainville.
Missionary converts Canadian Crossbow (150, 11).

Near Eulbar, Camel Musketeer kills Austria-Hungarian Horse Archer (151, 11);

Defending Zarigum: Cuirassier kills Japanese Mounted Samurai (152, 11). Knight kills Indian War Elephant (153, 11); Cuirassier kills Pike (154, 11); Knight of the Realm kills Longbow (155, 11); Medieval Infantry killed by Pike (155, 12); Camel Musketeer kills Crossbow (156, 12); Cuirassier kill 3 Crossbows (158, 12); Musketeers kill 2 Crossbows (160, 12); Cuirassier kill 2 Arab Crossbows (162, 12).

Near Pozan Cuirassier kills Japanese Pike (163, 12).

IBT: The Lowlands contacts us. The trade screen only shows 1 city. I declare war on them.

1840 AD:
Near Tangier, Knight kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (164, 12).

Defending Zariqum: Cuirassier killed by Japanese Mounted Samarai (164, 13); Lawyer signs Mounted Samarai to movie contract (165, 13). Musketeer kills Indian Medieval Infantry (166, 13); Musketeer kills Crossbow (167, 13) and we get a Great Leader. The Great Leader rushes an Observatory in Torun.
Cuirassier kills Crossbow (168, 13); Cuirassier kills Crossbow (169, 13) and we get a Great Leader. The Great Leader begins travel to Vitcos which is dire need of a Hospital. Cuirassier kill 4 Crossbows 173, 13).

Near Nineveh, Cuirassier kills Arab Crossbow (174, 13).
Defending Zarzis: Cannon kills Indo-Chinese Cannon (175, 13); Knights kill 2 Musketeers (177, 13); Knight killed by Musketeer (177, 14); Missionary converts Musketeer (178, 14). Knight kills Canadian Bombard (179, 14).

IBT: Annoying sea bombardment destroys some roads

We learn how to Navigate the seas. The Oracle becomes a tourist attraction.
We begin to research how to use Cannons at sea. Naval Guns is due in 4 turns at 50% research.

1842 AD:
North of Zariqum, Knight kills Arab Trebuchet (180, 14) and when the fog lifts finds the city of Ellipi.

Annexing Ellipi: Camel Musketeer kills Arab Late Pike (181, 14); Cuirassier kills Late Pike (182, 14). The city is annexed.
Cuirassier kills Crossbow (183, 14).

Near Zariqum: Cuirassier kills Japanese Pike (184, 14); Cuirassier kills Medieval Infantry (185, 14). Lawyer signs an Indian Seige Crossbow to a Bollywood contract (186, 14): Cuirassier kills Seige Crossbow (187, 14).

Annexing Sippar: Cuirassier kills Arab Late Pike (188, 14); Knight kills Late Pike (189, 14); Knight kills Warrior (190, 14). The city is annexed.

Near Zarzis: Knights kill 2 Canadian Camel Musketeer (192, 14); Cuirassier kills Crossbow (193, 14); Cuirassier kill 2 Indo-Chinese Grenadiers (195, 14); Cuirassier kills Rider (196, 14).

Clean-up between Nippur and Nineveh: Knight kills Austria-Hungarian Archer (197, 14); Cuirassier kills Chariot (198, 14); Cuirassier killed by Spearman (198,15); Cuirassier kill 2 Spearmen (200, 15); Crossbow kills Swordsman (201, 15); Knight kills Crossbow (202, 15). Knight kills Arab Late Pike 203, 15).

Near Tangier: Cannon kills Japanese Pike (204, 15). Cuirassier kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (205, 15).

1844 AD: Great Leader rushes a Hospital in Vitcos.
Near Zarzis: Knight kills Indo-Chinese Musketeer (206, 15); Cuirassier kills Grenadier (207, 15); Cannon kills Grenadier (208, 15); Cuirassier kills Musketeer (209, 15); Missionary converts Musketeer (210, 15); Knight kills Musketeer (211, 15); Knight kills Grenadier (212, 15).

Notes and Suggestions:

• The Arab cities I am starving to not employ scientists because I don’t think I can drop to 40% research and still get Naval Guns in 3 turns.
• When we learn Naval Guns, I think the Small Wonder Jolly Roger should go in Washington. Maybe we can sink the Japanese fleet that is bombarding our cities.
• The workers at Brundisum, 1 stack builds 1 turn roads, the other irrigates in 1 turn.
• The workers at Vitcos, 1 stack builds 1 turn roads, the other irrigates in 1 turn.
  • Before I realized it would not be my turn, I was going to road all the flood plains and the plains tile east of Vitcos then road to Ica and reattach Andahuaylas to the network.
• I think it will take about 15 turns for the Maghreb town (near Vitcos) of Leptis Minor to grow to size 2.
• Screenshots in my next post.
  • Info will be typed on some of them.

 

[Jersey Joe]

The Western Front

Red Dot Site

Yellow Dot Site

Area around Rome

East of Rome

Former USA

Former Inca

Arab Front

 

[LKendter]

We contacted Lowlands with 2 lousy cities? What civ chewed them up already?

I like the pics of the Roman core. It looks like we got the cities 100% complete for tile development.




ROSTER:
LKendter (on deck) (vacation 7/21 to 7/30)
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (up) @ Elephantium - not sure if you will have a fast turnaround to give me a chance to play before vacation. A swap may work the best.

 

[Jersey Joe]

I like the pics of the Roman core. It looks like we got the cities 100% complete for tile development.

Greebley and Elephantium finished most of the core.
My contribution is only mining a few forests in Viroconium, which I did not finish. Viroconium still needs 2 mined forests. One (1) mine completes this turn and the final forest tile could be mined right after that.

Actually, I think Viroconium might be a good city to build the Great Palace in.

 

[LKendter]

ROSTER:
LKendter (on deck) (vacation 7/21 to 7/30)
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (up) @ Elephantium - not sure if you will have a fast turnaround to give me a chance to play before vacation. A swap may work the best.

 

[Elephantium]

Yeah, I can do a swap. I'm not super busy this week, but it's probably better to have you "down to the wire" just before vacation

 

[LKendter]

ROSTER:
LKendter (up)
Greebley
Jersey Joe
Elephantium (on deck)

 

[Greebley]

I almost got water to Warsaw. I think it worth finishing this and getting water to the other cities as well. If nothing else it gives us more scientists. Even corrupt irrigated cities can run max scientists for a decent boost.

 

[Greebley]

Also check if Rome needs a university.

 

[LKendter]

Mid-set teaser. We just got one of the super wonders.

 

[Jersey Joe]

Looks like we also got a good supply of scientists for a while

 

[LKendter]

Looks like we also got a good supply of scientists for a while

If this set keep going well, there will be plenty of scientists. Arabia is spent.

 

[LKendter]

Late set bad news:

 

[Jersey Joe]

Interesting background. My screen looks like that when I forget to rename libOSMesa.so.8

Hopefully they are several techs behind us.

 

[LKendter]

Hopefully they are several techs behind us.

They are *ahead* of us.