Personally, I would avoid rushing Steamrollers in any town with a Persian, Korean, Indian, or Russian population, because they will be hybrid (why spend 800 gold for 1/2 the production).
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Personally, I would avoid rushing Steamrollers in any town with a Persian, Korean, Indian, or Russian population, because they will be hybrid (why spend 800 gold for 1/2 the production).
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As long as there is at least 2 Chinese people, we get a full production steamroller.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
Not a problem! As of the end of my turnset, our big cities are:
Beijing, 27
Canton, 27
Earth Horse Ranch, 24
Shanghai, 22
Pusan, 21 (mostly Korean, only 3 Chinese citizens)
Gunpowder City, 20
Tsingtao, 20
The next biggest city is size 18 and growing slowly.
LK, great job getting the Crystal Palace
Regardless of their size, I would rush Steamrollers in all of the Mongul cities. Actually, in many cases a town with less that 11 in population can regrow the lost population point quicker than a city like Earth Horse Ranch or Shanghai.
Elephantium
Trampling the AI
I'm not sure about the Mongolian cities. They're pretty food-poor.
Maybe Tientsin? That was size 5 in 850, growing quickly. It could be a two-turn Steamroller factory (via rushing) with any sizes between 7 and 11.
Antioch and Bactra fit the bill, too.
Maybe Tientsin? That was size 5 in 850, growing quickly. It could be a two-turn Steamroller factory (via rushing) with any sizes between 7 and 11.
Antioch and Bactra fit the bill, too.
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Most of the Mongolian cities grow way to SLOW. In addition, it is *2* pop points for a steamroller.
However, a couple of Mongolian cities are rushing them. I found some working 2 or more unimproved tiles. That pop is doing very little for us.
Joe, don't worry, you will have some steamrollers to play with. I've already gotten some cities connected, and the set isn't over.
However, a couple of Mongolian cities are rushing them. I found some working 2 or more unimproved tiles. That pop is doing very little for us.
Joe, don't worry, you will have some steamrollers to play with. I've already gotten some cities connected, and the set isn't over.
That is a very good reason for building Steamrollers in towns with less than 20 pop.
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850 AD (0)
No one has railroads, so it will be a bit to get it. I turn research to max to buy railroads cheaper.
I run the math, and a rushed factory will gain nothing toward Crystal Palace. 4 turns are 150 SPT. I get that by hiring all engineers. A factory won’t get us to 200 SPT. I switched Beijing to Battlefield Medicine. I hope that railroad takes a bit to show up.
My worker goal is to get them all together for rail building. In addition, I don’t want them improving weak cities.
With Karachi being the hot zone, I rush a barracks.
(IT) I watch Brazil and Japan beat each other up.
860 AD (1)
I rushed barracks in more cities along the Russian borders.
The main fighting with Russia is next to Karachi.
I kill a privateer. (1-0)
An enslaver finds a German worker in the way. He convinces them to work for us. (2-0)
I kill Russia: 5 grenadiers, 1 pike, 4 musketeers and 3 muskets. (15-0)
I lost: 2 cavalries. (15-2)
(IT) Egypt and Scandinavia sign a peace treaty.
I killed Russia: 3 crossbow, 1 MDI and 1 bucket. (20-2)
I lost 3 cavalry, and 1 infantry. (20-6)
(IT) Germany is building Crystal Palace. Railroads showed up faster than I thought. Hopefully the prebuild is enough.
No one has railroads, so it will be a bit to get it. I turn research to max to buy railroads cheaper.
I run the math, and a rushed factory will gain nothing toward Crystal Palace. 4 turns are 150 SPT. I get that by hiring all engineers. A factory won’t get us to 200 SPT. I switched Beijing to Battlefield Medicine. I hope that railroad takes a bit to show up.
My worker goal is to get them all together for rail building. In addition, I don’t want them improving weak cities.
With Karachi being the hot zone, I rush a barracks.
(IT) I watch Brazil and Japan beat each other up.
860 AD (1)
I rushed barracks in more cities along the Russian borders.
The main fighting with Russia is next to Karachi.
I kill a privateer. (1-0)
An enslaver finds a German worker in the way. He convinces them to work for us. (2-0)
I kill Russia: 5 grenadiers, 1 pike, 4 musketeers and 3 muskets. (15-0)
I lost: 2 cavalries. (15-2)
(IT) Egypt and Scandinavia sign a peace treaty.
I killed Russia: 3 crossbow, 1 MDI and 1 bucket. (20-2)
I lost 3 cavalry, and 1 infantry. (20-6)
(IT) Germany is building Crystal Palace. Railroads showed up faster than I thought. Hopefully the prebuild is enough.
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870 AD (2)
The three sources for railroads are Germany, Inca and Maghreb. 2 of them have troops inside our borders. The third is too close to us. I will have to do a straight tech buy.
The best price is Maghreb. I give them rubber, coal and $11952 for rails. Beijing switches to Crystal Palace due in 2 turns. I investigate Berlin. It needs *3* turns to complete Crystal Palace. The prebuild paid off. I was very nervous that Elephantium got Industry but didn’t talk about Crystal Palace plans.
The tile next to Karachi is cleared.
I sink a German corvette. (21-6)
I kill Russia: 1 MDI, 1 cannon, 2 pike, 4 crossbow, 3 hussars, 3 grenadiers, 2 muskets and 3 musketeers. (40-6)
[End of session 1]
(IT) I’m not going to start a war with Maghreb. I gave them $100.
The three sources for railroads are Germany, Inca and Maghreb. 2 of them have troops inside our borders. The third is too close to us. I will have to do a straight tech buy.
The best price is Maghreb. I give them rubber, coal and $11952 for rails. Beijing switches to Crystal Palace due in 2 turns. I investigate Berlin. It needs *3* turns to complete Crystal Palace. The prebuild paid off. I was very nervous that Elephantium got Industry but didn’t talk about Crystal Palace plans.
The tile next to Karachi is cleared.
I sink a German corvette. (21-6)
I kill Russia: 1 MDI, 1 cannon, 2 pike, 4 crossbow, 3 hussars, 3 grenadiers, 2 muskets and 3 musketeers. (40-6)
[End of session 1]
(IT) I’m not going to start a war with Maghreb. I gave them $100.
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880 AD (3)
It looks like I’m done with the big Russian waves. The offensive may start again soon.
I kill Russia: 3 grenadier, 1 musketeer, 1 musket and 1 dragoon. (46-6)
I lost: 1 cavalry. (46-7)
(IT) Crystal Palace is completed. We get explosives and steel for free.
The Capitol is also completed.
Germany was caught trying to sabotage production.
It looks like I’m done with the big Russian waves. The offensive may start again soon.
I kill Russia: 3 grenadier, 1 musketeer, 1 musket and 1 dragoon. (46-6)
I lost: 1 cavalry. (46-7)
(IT) Crystal Palace is completed. We get explosives and steel for free.
The Capitol is also completed.
Germany was caught trying to sabotage production.
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890 AD (4)
I give Turkey naval power for furs and $88/T.
I give Maghreb explosives for $15,984. They get steel for $25,524.
I give Germany explosives for $6,662. They get steel for $11,118.
I give the Inca explosives for $7,125. They get steel for $5,530 and $300/T.
I give Austria explosives for $340 and $206/T.
Some of the civs are pathetic. I’m not giving Canada naval power for just $240.
I give Scandinavia naval guns for $136 and $67/T.
I give Greece naval power for $95 and $187/T.
I give Indo-China naval power for $90 and $148/T.
I give Lowlands free artistry for $72 and $85/T.
I give USA enlightenment for $52 and $196/T.
I give Japan free artistry for $45 and $84/T.
I give Britian democracy for $27 and $209/T.
This cash should help us get a few steamrollers rushed. The challenge now is lack of people.
A lawyer kills a Germany heavy artillery giving us an artist. (47-7)
Asian Cavalry of Doom arrives. Pasargadae gets a rushed factory.
I kill Russia: 1 camel and 3 dragoons. (51-7)
(IT) Japan declares war on Australia despite fighting Brazil.
Australia and Britain sign a peace treaty.
I give Turkey naval power for furs and $88/T.
I give Maghreb explosives for $15,984. They get steel for $25,524.
I give Germany explosives for $6,662. They get steel for $11,118.
I give the Inca explosives for $7,125. They get steel for $5,530 and $300/T.
I give Austria explosives for $340 and $206/T.
Some of the civs are pathetic. I’m not giving Canada naval power for just $240.
I give Scandinavia naval guns for $136 and $67/T.
I give Greece naval power for $95 and $187/T.
I give Indo-China naval power for $90 and $148/T.
I give Lowlands free artistry for $72 and $85/T.
I give USA enlightenment for $52 and $196/T.
I give Japan free artistry for $45 and $84/T.
I give Britian democracy for $27 and $209/T.
This cash should help us get a few steamrollers rushed. The challenge now is lack of people.
A lawyer kills a Germany heavy artillery giving us an artist. (47-7)
Asian Cavalry of Doom arrives. Pasargadae gets a rushed factory.
I kill Russia: 1 camel and 3 dragoons. (51-7)
(IT) Japan declares war on Australia despite fighting Brazil.
Australia and Britain sign a peace treaty.
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900 AD (5)
I sank an Incan frigate. (52-8)
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 grenadier, 1 musket, 1 musketeer and 1 heavy artillery. (57-8)
(IT) Nubia and Arabia sign a peace treaty.
Production in Trantor has been sabotaged.
I lost 1 infantry. (57-9)
910 AD (6)
Macao was founded.
I give Poland free artistry for $130 and $85/T.
I give Spain naval power for $104 and $54/T.
I give Arabia industry for $68 and $148/T.
The resistance from Russia is pretty much done. Stacks of troops begin to cross into their territory.
I kill Russia: 1 bombard, 3 dragoons, 1 infantry, 1 musket and 1 grenadier. (64-9)
(IT) I lost 1 infantry. (64-10)
South Africa completes their UW.
I sank an Incan frigate. (52-8)
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 grenadier, 1 musket, 1 musketeer and 1 heavy artillery. (57-8)
(IT) Nubia and Arabia sign a peace treaty.
Production in Trantor has been sabotaged.
I lost 1 infantry. (57-9)
910 AD (6)
Macao was founded.
I give Poland free artistry for $130 and $85/T.
I give Spain naval power for $104 and $54/T.
I give Arabia industry for $68 and $148/T.
The resistance from Russia is pretty much done. Stacks of troops begin to cross into their territory.
I kill Russia: 1 bombard, 3 dragoons, 1 infantry, 1 musket and 1 grenadier. (64-9)
(IT) I lost 1 infantry. (64-10)
South Africa completes their UW.
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920 AD (7)
The assault on Lahore begins. I kill: 2 infantry and 1 dragoon. (67-10)
I gained $0. The city is culture bombed.
The assault on Madras begins. I kill: 2 muskets and 1 dragoon. I lost: 1 lawyer. (70-11)
I gained $0.
The assault on Chartres begins. I kill: 2 musket and 1 dragoon. (73-11)
I gained $0. The city is culture bombed.
I realized we never sold off obsolete buildings. All the granaries and slavery have been sold off. It was only a few hundred bucks.
With the rail-net beginning to go up, I start to reduce our interior cities to just one defender.
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 musket, 2 grenadiers, 2 infantries, 1 pike, 1 heavy artillery and 1 dragoon. (82-11)
I lost: 2 cavalries. (84-11)
(IT) I lost: 2 cavalries. (84-13)
Germany completes the Eiffel Tower in the shield powerhouse of Berlin.
The assault on Lahore begins. I kill: 2 infantry and 1 dragoon. (67-10)
I gained $0. The city is culture bombed.
The assault on Madras begins. I kill: 2 muskets and 1 dragoon. I lost: 1 lawyer. (70-11)
I gained $0.
The assault on Chartres begins. I kill: 2 musket and 1 dragoon. (73-11)
I gained $0. The city is culture bombed.
I realized we never sold off obsolete buildings. All the granaries and slavery have been sold off. It was only a few hundred bucks.
With the rail-net beginning to go up, I start to reduce our interior cities to just one defender.
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 musket, 2 grenadiers, 2 infantries, 1 pike, 1 heavy artillery and 1 dragoon. (82-11)
I lost: 2 cavalries. (84-11)
(IT) I lost: 2 cavalries. (84-13)
Germany completes the Eiffel Tower in the shield powerhouse of Berlin.
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930 AD (8)
I try to steal the world map from Russia. Our spy was caught.
That sucks, as we really need better map knowledge.
The assault on Kolhapur begins. I kill 1 infantry and 1 musket. I lost 1 cavalry. (86-14)
I gained $0.
The assault on Jaipur begins. I kill 2 infantries, 2 dragoons and 1 musket. I lost 1 cavalry. (91-15)
I gained $0 and 1 worker.
I kill Russia: 1 musket, 1 horse artillery and 1 dragoon. (94-15)
[End of session 2]
(IT) I kill a Russian cavalry and lost a cavalry. (95-16)
Turkey declares war on America.
Maghreb and Austria sign a peace treaty.
USA and Inca sign a peace treaty.
I try to steal the world map from Russia. Our spy was caught.
That sucks, as we really need better map knowledge.
The assault on Kolhapur begins. I kill 1 infantry and 1 musket. I lost 1 cavalry. (86-14)
I gained $0.
The assault on Jaipur begins. I kill 2 infantries, 2 dragoons and 1 musket. I lost 1 cavalry. (91-15)
I gained $0 and 1 worker.
I kill Russia: 1 musket, 1 horse artillery and 1 dragoon. (94-15)
[End of session 2]
(IT) I kill a Russian cavalry and lost a cavalry. (95-16)
Turkey declares war on America.
Maghreb and Austria sign a peace treaty.
USA and Inca sign a peace treaty.
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940 AD (9)
Our pirates sink 2 Incan corvettes. We gained another pirate. (96-16)
We can now upgrade to commerce raiders. Time to bring all the pirates to port and upgrade.
The assault on Samara begins. I kill 1 musket. (97-16)
I gained $0. The city auto razed.
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 musket and 1 dragoon. (100-16)
(IT) I lost: 1 pike (was exploring), 1 lawyer and 1 cavalry. (100-19)
950 AD (10)
The assault on Calcutta begins. I kill: 2 muskets.
I gained $0 and 2 workers.
The assault on Yakutsk begins. The battle has finally gotten to true Russian cities. I kill 2 infantries and 1 dragoon. I lost 1 cavalry.
I gained $0 and 2 workers.
I kill Russia: 3 dragoons and 1 musket.
[End of session 3]
Our pirates sink 2 Incan corvettes. We gained another pirate. (96-16)
We can now upgrade to commerce raiders. Time to bring all the pirates to port and upgrade.
The assault on Samara begins. I kill 1 musket. (97-16)
I gained $0. The city auto razed.
I kill Russia: 1 crossbow, 1 musket and 1 dragoon. (100-16)
(IT) I lost: 1 pike (was exploring), 1 lawyer and 1 cavalry. (100-19)
950 AD (10)
The assault on Calcutta begins. I kill: 2 muskets.
I gained $0 and 2 workers.
The assault on Yakutsk begins. The battle has finally gotten to true Russian cities. I kill 2 infantries and 1 dragoon. I lost 1 cavalry.
I gained $0 and 2 workers.
I kill Russia: 3 dragoons and 1 musket.
[End of session 3]
