Loser!--Nurses have authority too

[AlpsStranger]

My older sister is an RN and I just spent a week in the hospital. Nurses are human worker drones who barely stop moving for most of their shift. It's really, really hard to get mad at such an overworked profession for saying what 95% of us already think about anti-vaccine people.

Full Disclosure: I have defended anti-vaccers once or twice, but only on bare-bones 1st amendment grounds ( from people I know who wish to censor and arrest them. ) Other than that they can kiss my ass. I have great contempt for their particularly dangerous form of stupidity.

I'm looking at you Jim Carrey, you stupid <snip>.

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[Bugfatty300]

Yeah, people who reject science and modern medicine, who buy into anti-vaccination lies; these people deserve to have their feelings hurt. Especially after they come running through hospital doors with a dying baby after realizing their dangerous idiotic lifestyle has utterly failed them.

Don't brush your teeth or floss for a few years and then go to the dentist. The nurses are going to tell you that your reckless nasty lack of hygiene is why your gums are gushing blood and pus. They'll shame you into taking better care of yourself.

 

[Rashiminos]

I see that the General Law is in full effect here.

"But public opinion, because of the tremendous urge to conformity in gregarious animals, is less tolerant than any system of law. When human beings are governed by 'thou shalt not', the individual can practise a certain amount of eccentricity: when they are supposedly governed by 'love' or 'reason', he is under continuous pressure to make him behave and think in exactly the same way as everyone else." - George Orwell

Oh the irony.

 

[JollyRoger]

Hm? A nurse is a part of the lower-skilled workforce of an institution

Typically in the U.S., the nurses are high enough skill to save you from hurried doctors who get rushed into making mistakes. They are generally far from what is considered a low-skilled worker.

The statement by the nurse was appalling however - there are much better ways to troll idiot parents.

 

[KMRblue1027]

A full RN has to go through at least 4 years of university schooling (Including 2 years of primarily clinicals) and most go through 6. I have no idea where one would get the impression that they are low skilled in the US. Nursing students are often cited the hardest working the in country too.

 

[downtown]

Yeah, nursing in the US requires some level of post secondary education, and the average salary for a regular ol' nurse is still over $60,000. In this country, these are certainly not low-wage, low-rent employees. Like others have said, certain kind of nurses require at least 4 years of schooling, if not more.

Writing a note was probably not wise, but you don't need an MD to know that parents who don't immunize their kids are morons.

 

[Arachnofiend]

I see that the General Law is in full effect here.

Oh the irony.

Excuse me for not wanting to catch a nasty superbug that's breeding and mutating in these truthers' kids.

 

[householder]

I see that the General Law is in full effect here.

Rashiminos, if an adult chooses to hang glide, or ride a motorcycle in a snowstorm, or forgo basic medical care, I might question his decision, but it is his life.

When an adult decides that a young child should be also exposed to those same risks, putting the child's well-being in danger, that is when I become judgmental.

 

[Rashiminos]

Excuse me for not wanting to catch a nasty superbug that's breeding and mutating in these truthers' kids.

Excused, lol.

Spoiler :

The superbugs are mutating in response to treatment, not the lack thereof.

When an adult decides that a young child should be also exposed to those same risks, putting the child's well-being in danger, that is when I become judgmental.

That's a fine thing to say, if one understands the import.

 

[Camikaze]

When an adult decides that a young child should be also exposed to those same risks, putting the child's well-being in danger, that is when I become judgmental.

The primary problem seems to me to be more the risk that they're putting other children at. A selfish parent ruins herd immunity.

 

[Formaldehyde]

The note needed to be more detailed. After I read the OP, I was under impression that the nurse had called the kid a loser (ur kid hadn't been vaccinat'd, and now he's a total loser, lol) rather then the parents.

I think it is quite obvious that the note wasn't intended for the parents. That it was from one employee at the hospital to another. That it was apparently accidentally left behind and the parents found it.

That said, I think the note was spot on. Not only are they Alex Jones-type "immunizations are bad for you" wingnuts, they didn't even know their baby had a fever.

It is also interesting to note that this story hasn't been picked up by the mainstream media at all. There is mention of it in the local news, but the rest of the sources are sites like Alec Jones. Sensationalist sites like The Raw Story then picked up on it from them.

 

[Bamspeedy]

It is also interesting to note that this story hasn't been picked up by the mainstream media at all. There is mention of it in the local news, but the rest of the sources are sites like Alec Jones. Sensationalist sites like The Raw Story then picked up on it from them.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...-says-hospital-called-her-baby-loser.wis.html

Posted two days ago.

 

[Labtec600]

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what is this thread about

Kyriakos likes to find stories about the US and the post them acting like it's the norm. We all know that Greece hasn't been in the news at all recently.

 

[Formaldehyde]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...-says-hospital-called-her-baby-loser.wis.html

Posted two days ago.

One video story by CNN is hardly being picked up by mainstream media.

 

[Souron]

Seems to me she intended to mock the doctor, not the patient. Nothing too interesting here.

 

[Shaihulud]

The kid is a loser, can't see what is wrog with the Nurse stating the fact.

 

[Kyriakos]

Kyriakos likes to find stories about the US and the post them acting like it's the norm.

That is hardly fair, despite my current thread on creative concepts of 'aliens'

 

[AlpsStranger]

I see that the General Law is in full effect here.

Oh the irony.

I'm not trying to force you to conform ( that's not my MO. )

I am terrified that people are doing this, though, and I think it's a mistake.

 

[Akka]

I may have missed something, but basically a baby hurt himself (details lacking how), he's driven to the hospital, and because he has a fever a nurse insults the parents due to "no immunization".

How exactly is it acceptable ? I mean, we don't even know which disease caused the fever, if any. Are you going to be called "loser" each time you or someone in your family has a fever ?

 

[householder]

How exactly is it acceptable ? I mean, we don't even know which disease caused the fever, if any. Are you going to be called "loser" each time you or someone in your family has a fever ?

I don't think anyone in this discussion has argued that what the nurse did was acceptable. It was unprofessional and it was rude.

According to the news story on which the Smoking Gun article was based, the hospital quickly suspended the nurse and further discipline is pending. The hospital apologized to the parents. And in a public statement, they made clear that, although they encourage immunizations, they recognize the right of parents to choose otherwise.