Mansplaying

[Terxpahseyton]

I readily admit, I ax an grind with the term.

I do not deny it any merit. Men can be condensing to women. Men can play alpha. But maybe also, Men may play alpha not because he is a sexist, but because being a dick is part of its job because you effed up. Because that is how men may deal with such situations under serious conditions. Such as business. It can, I suppose be one, however it is not inherently a sexist phenomena. But a male social phenomena. Serious male mass missions were exclusive either hunting, or war. In either case: Killing. They were soldiers. Soldier up. Studies also show that successful women learn to adopt male gestures. Such as grapping your shoulder as a sign of dominance. Women don't do that to each other. That is not they style. They got different social operations going on, but men do absolutely causally among the powerful. Successful females tend to, as well.

So in effect, while I understand the sentiment, I find this weapon to be entirely inadequate in its reach und spread, relative to its merit.

There is no way to have this term be used and have a net productive benefit. Essentially it just tries to feminize men. But on principle while this may have a net productive benefit, in a given case, in this case, it just randomly shuts males up females didn't like. This is madness, I tell you! Well not quite. It is method.

Modern feminism is just so funny, because its nature supports just the stereotypes it tries to disown.
It really has become a sort of comedy show for me. It is like watching a man getting dominated by his nagging housewife, sit-com style.

 

[Senethro]

Someones gunning for r19's spot....

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I welcome different view points, which may or may not be related to Turkish space ships.

 

[H4run]

oh boi, you came from someone who recommend me a documentary about sexual harassments and female mistreatment and discrimination in American military, to later became a pick-up specialist, then to an enlighten living Budha then to this. You really come from a long long way. What a journey.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

I try to stay diverse. gave none of those view points ever up entirely

 

[Ferocitus]

My wife said the term you are struggling with is Mansplaining.
Mansplaying is a synonym for Manspreading.
She thought a picture might help if you're still having trouble.

 

[Terxpahseyton]

You are right, Sir.

And the second part is just odd.

 

[Hygro]

Women hunted.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Moderator Action: Hmmm...I'm not sure what will become of this thread. If it is going to be some kind of justification for testosterone rooted "boys will be boys" diatribe about how women need to just "get over it", then I do not have much hope. @Terxpahseyton if you have some clear point to discuss, please lay it out. If it just a rant, then I can move this to the rants thread.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Okay, here's my take. The title makes no sense. Even before I saw the thread I realized the OP must mean "Mansplaining."

As for "men can be condensing to women"... I see why the spell checker didn't flag it, but the grammar checker should have.

The word the OP is looking for is "condescending."

Seems we already had a thread about this topic. It didn't go well.

Sorry, guys, I'm not in the headspace for a thread like this. There's enough of it going on in RL, with the provincial government.

You are so lucky MaryKB doesn't come around much these days. You'd have more responses than you'd know what to do with.

 

[amadeus]

There is a question buried somewhere in here, and I’m sure it’s been addressed by someone, somewhere.

Question: what are society’s expectations for men and women, and when we behave in a way that we believe is consistent with those expectations, how close are we in accurately discerning them?

I’m thinking about it like a person with a crossbow that shoots slightly to the left. They can see center of the target clearly, but all the arrows are going to miss.

To be honest, I’m not even sure I’m conscious of my gender in most circumstances—I don’t plan actions based on being a man, or think about them through any sort of masculine lens. That is to say, everything is kind of ad hoc and when I react to something it’s based on x variables which may or may not include gender.

 

[red_elk]

If a man is condensing, it means he is gaseous!

 

[Ferocitus]

If a man is condensing, it means he is gaseous!

It's just a phase he's going through.

 

[Narz]

You are so lucky MaryKB doesn't come around much these days.

I count my blessings

 

[Ajidica]

You are so lucky MaryKB doesn't come around much these days. You'd have more responses than you'd know what to do with.

Ah yes, when she ragequit after yelling at Lemon Merchant to stop mansplaining to her how Meyers-Briggs is nonsense.

 

[H4run]

Ah yes, when she ragequit after yelling at Lemon Merchant to stop mansplaining to her how Meyers-Briggs is nonsense.

woa, for real? is that ever happened? isn't she realize LM is a female? hence the term mansplaining is kind a impossible?

 

[Ferocitus]

woa, for real? is that ever happened? isn't she realize LM is a female? hence the term mansplaining is kind a impossible?

Women can mansplain as well as men.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Ah yes, when she ragequit after yelling at Lemon Merchant to stop mansplaining to her how Meyers-Briggs is nonsense.

woa, for real? is that ever happened? isn't she realize LM is a female? hence the term mansplaining is kind a impossible?

Of course Mary knows that Lemon Merchant is female. But what guys need to understand is that women do not always agree with each other, and there are some topics, opinions, and attitudes that we may find reprehensible no matter who expresses them.

There are things each of these women have said over the years that I vehemently do NOT agree with, and yes, they have to do with things that come under the general label of feminism.

Also keep in mind that all three of us have RL experiences that affect our views, and I've noticed that these can sometimes result in posts being a bit more... emphatic... than they might otherwise be.

I consider Mary a friend with whom there are one or two topics it's best not to discuss because we will never agree. We get along fine the rest of the time, and I appreciate that she has been helpful and encouraging in my writing efforts.


As for whether or not it's possible for a woman to "mansplain"... I don't quite know what term might actually apply, but it greatly annoys me if a woman says, "All women do ______" as it must be obvious that we're NOT all alike. The example I'm thinking of pertains to shoes. It's every bit as annoying and wrong when a woman says it as it is if a man says something like "ALL women love shopping for shoes and can't have enough pairs."

That's sexist, and yes, women can be sexist toward other women. If a woman wants to express her love for shoes, let her speak for herself. She doesn't get to speak for me.

Ditto makeup, going to hair salons, or whatever else women are said to stereotypically do.

 

[H4run]

Women can mansplain as well as men.

errgh, isn't that suppose to be womansplain? your statement is really destroy the initial spirit of what mansplaining is, which is a man explaining a woman something that is obvious for her because he assumed because she's a woman she doesn't get it.

Or a man defining for a woman particular things and ignoring her own intellectual stance and existence.

Of course Mary knows that Lemon Merchant is female. But what guys need to understand is that women do not always agree with each other, and there are some topics, opinions, and attitudes that we may find reprehensible no matter who expresses them.

There are things each of these women have said over the years that I vehemently do NOT agree with, and yes, they have to do with things that come under the general la

Of course I agree with you Valka, but that disagreement doesn't make one "mansplaining" the other, well if one woman accused another woman "mansplaining", the one that get accused can negate the accusation by saying that she's the one who actually mansplaining her by defining her with such accusation.

Is that makes sense?

 

[Ferocitus]

No, mansplain is the correct term, i.e. explaining like a condescending man to a woman.