mass murderer brutally executed in Iran

[dgfred]

Sure, what the heck should I else want to tell 'bout?
But there are already pro-contra deah penalty threats on this forum. No need to go deeper. Exspecially 'coz I presume it's clear that I am contra.
And will be.

What would be your position should your daughter or son be raped and killed
by some maniac? Would your 'tune' change?

 

[punkbass2000]

The people who are 'against' the death penalty should pay heavier taxes
to cover the room and board for what would be then life-time prisoners.

I don't see why I should pay for a liberal's hand-wringing.

.......

Actually, it normally costs about ten times as much to execute a criminal as it does to imprison one.

 

[E-Raser]

What would be your position should your daughter or son be raped and killed
by some maniac? Would your 'tune' change?

sure not.....

 

[King Alexander]

I really DO NOT LIKE the fact that all sentencies are reduced with one's 'good behavior' - a crime is a crime and nothing changes that, and one should fully do it's FULL sentence(what the court charged him with, that is).

For me, such an ANIMAL as this Iranian sick zombie, should NEVER-NEVER get out of jail, but leave this world in he's cell for his crimes - IF we can't guarantee this and his lawyers do tricks to get them out(or even worse to close him in an asylum for 5-15 years and then release him), then I see NO reason why the society shouldn't execute him.

No execution? Leave him in jail FOR LIFE, but not a 'common jail': a jail ONLY for this type of animals who have to work not only to earn their living but also to offer to society.

 

[Leonel]

100 lashes? A relative of one of the victims actually stabbing the accused in the back? BARBARIC! MONSTEROUS!



He should have gotten 10,000 lashes and have ALL the relatives have the chance of breaking one of the guys bones!

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Actually, it normally costs about ten times as much to execute a criminal as it does to imprison one.

I thought that was just because of the 5446979 years long appeals process?

The actual execution shouldn't cost too much, especially if we do it Nazi style.

 

[blindside]

Actually, it normally costs about ten times as much to execute a criminal as it does to imprison one.

I'm not sure if its ten times as much but I remember the figure for execution was somewhere around $2 million (for all the papers, lawyers etc.) and it costs somewhere between $20-50,000 per year to keep a guy in prison. Costs more as the man gets older. In the end it will still probably cost more to execute than to imprison for life.

 

[Jawz II]

Being against the death penalty, I don't even like the 'humane' deaths delt out in the US let alone something like this.

i dont consider the death penalty dealt out in the us as humane, with the chair setting people on fire, while they are still alive and stuff..

the russians got the death penalty right, a shot to the head, then another one after the convict goes down, just to make sure



i am a left winger, and as such i should be against it
im not, not really, but i am totally against what is going on in texas, where every weekend someone get killed by the state


i think it should be for those who have raped/tortured their victims before they murdered them, anything less would not qualify
for that kind of people that would do such things, death can be a blessing

and for the victims relatives, to get a sense of revenge, i dont care how liberal you are, if it was your kid/relative/good friend that got killed, youd want to boil the killer alive too!(i would!)

it easy to be philosophical and constructive, when its someone elses kid!


it should only be in cases, when theres absolute proof of guilt, like a video tape AND a confession

i know, the prosecutor usually dosent have proof that good, but the thought of someones country locking up an innocent man for years, and then killing them is just too horrible to even think about

there has been several cases of people being given the death penalty in america, and after their death being cleared of all charges

i read somewhere, the number is as high as 7%, but i dont remember where

 

[The Last Conformist]

What would be your position should your daughter or son be raped and killed
by some maniac? Would your 'tune' change?

Yay. Emotional arguments.

If someone raped and killed my child, I'd want to kick his head into unrecognizability. Doesn't mean I think that would be right.

 

[punkbass2000]

I thought that was just because of the 5446979 years long appeals process?

The actual execution shouldn't cost too much, especially if we do it Nazi style.

That's true. But it still costs the system more, on the average. If your solution is to not give people a chance to appeal, then we're gonna quickly fall down a very slippery slope.

 

[punkbass2000]

I'm not sure if its ten times as much but I remember the figure for execution was somewhere around $2 million (for all the papers, lawyers etc.) and it costs somewhere between $20-50,000 per year to keep a guy in prison. Costs more as the man gets older. In the end it will still probably cost more to execute than to imprison for life.

Well, statistics will vary. It depends on what constitutes a "cost", for one thing. IIRC, it was around 5 000 000 for the execution (with due process) and 500 000 for 20 years in jail, that I heard.

 

[dgfred]

Yay. Emotional arguments.

If someone raped and killed my child, I'd want to kick his head into unrecognizability. Doesn't mean I think that would be right.

I say Yay, an honest answer .

 

[The Last Conformist]

@dgfred: What's wrong with you?

 

[dgfred]

@dgfred: What's wrong with you?

What do you mean?

 

[EquinoxOmega]

I am strickly against executions! It is against the humans rights and all nations should stick to them(especially those who want to defend our values).

 

[Jawz II]

The people who are 'against' the death penalty should pay heavier taxes
to cover the room and board for what would be then life-time prisoners.

I don't see why I should pay for a liberal's hand-wringing.

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actually, a life sentence is cheaper for the state than a death sentence (in america)

 

[The Last Conformist]

What do you mean?

You present a stupid argument, I point out the stupidity, and you go "Yay!". That's pretty strong evidence that something's wrong with you.
Moderator Action: Flaming - warned.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[A'AbarachAmadan]

@Jawz II - you missed my quotes around humane, should have put a

For every six prisoners executed since the reinstatement of the US death penalty, one innocent person was condemned to die and later exonerated. How many equally blameless but less fortunate prisoners still await execution - or have already gone to their deaths - may never be known.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engAMR510691998

From Amnesty International. Usually little is done to check after someone is put to death, so there are probably a good number who are killed even though they are innocent, though AI didn't have any stats.

 

[King Alexander]

I am strickly against executions! It is against the humans rights and all nations should stick to them(especially those who want to defend our values).

And what about the HUMAN RIGHTS of the RAPED AND MURDERED VICTIMS? How long will it take to a raped person to get rid of his fears/stresses? Will the murdered ones have another chance in life again?

 

[dgfred]

You present a stupid argument, I point out the stupidity, and you go "Yay!". That's pretty strong evidence that something's wrong with you.

What argument, I was asking E-Raser a question. I don't need you to point
out anything. Maybe something IS wrong with me, not agreeing with you.