MB4 - GOTM24 Redux [civ3] Roster A

[AlanH]

Originally posted by mad-bax
If CivGeneral doesn't pick this up, then the only suggestion I can make is that we kill this game and the three of you that are playing move onto the other vanilla roster. I would then retire and just administrate. I'd be happy to do this as other SG's I'm in are dragging on and I am playing too much really.

Let me know what you think.

I'd be prepared to continue with the game, as long as we can clearly identify who's playing and who isn't. As Smackster said, if someone can't take their turn we need to know before the event, not after a 24 or 72 hour time-out in total silence. Four of us played the first round, and four of us will have played the second, assuming CivGeneral's keyboard holds out now. At the rate we are going, Karasu will be back in the frame before we finish, giving us an extra player.

If we can maintain four active players each time around the roster, with fewer total silences, then I think it will work OK. If there are only going to be three of us then MB's idea of merging the 1.29 teams is an option for me as long as the other team agrees.

 

[Gengis Khan]

I'm playing as well, although I know the first 2 rounds didn't really show it. I've had some work related problems the last couple weeks & should be back into the swing of things very shortly. All the SGs I'm in have been somewhat lacking in the normal feedback & detail I put into them, but that is soon to change.

 

[smackster]

We certainly want you to play Gengis, and we want CivGeneral too, but we don't want the long silences, starts getting creepy. I start hearing voices, etc.

 

[mad-bax]

OK, we'll leave it as it is. I'm going to allow another player on your roster though just to keep the numbers up.

The new player is Teknoice who hasn't played GOTM before but is comfortable with Emperor/Deity level games. I have to help him get the scenario in place and I'll slot him in the roster when he's set.

Sorry to force this on you but if three teams are going to continue then I think they must all be viable long term.

You can direct any comments, questions or emotional outbursts in the usual manner.

 

[AlanH]

Originally posted by smackster
We certainly want you to play Gengis, and we want CivGeneral too, but we don't want the long silences, starts getting creepy. I start hearing voices, etc.

Me too! Glad to hear you'll be getting into it with us.

 

[mad-bax]

Teknoice has been added to the roster. I have placed him after CivGeneral just to give the rest of the team a breather.

His installation is OK and he can run the original GOTM save.

He should check in and introduce himself anytime soon.

 

[Teknoice]

Don't mind if I do mad-bax

hiya folks!

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Welcome Teknoice

 

[AlanH]

Hi Teknoice, welcome aboard

 

[smackster]

Tap, tap, anyone there, is the forum down, is Civ dead, is my computer still working, is CivGeneral still playing this SG?

I think Teknoice you are up, if you don't take it I'll play the whole game in one session and publish the final save here.

Smackster

 

[AlanH]

While I sympathise with your feelings of frustration, I think that would be a little unfair on the one or two others who have played and discussed this game enthusiastically. I'll be quite happy to run with it as a team of four, with you, Teknoice and Sir Bugsy, since we seem to have two members who are determined to slow the tech pace by simply not playing.

 

[Gengis Khan]

Hey, I heard that!! I didn't go anywhere, there's just nothing to post about until CG takes his turn. I'm patiently waiting my turn, like everyone else. I'll then get a chance to prove my worth to the team; ask anyone who's ever been in a SG with me, I'm a valuble & contributing member to all off them.

And NO I'm not determined to bring this SG down from the inside by not playing, or anything like that. I recomend laying off the over-dramatic pills AlanH, SGs last over 2 months and if you stress out everytime a day goes by without a post you'll give yourself an ulcer long before it's over.

 

[Teknoice]

k i'm going to take it right now.

 

[mad-bax]

OK CivGeneral is skipped.

Teknoice, you are up. I hope you are up to speed

Genghis and CivGeneral. While I can understand the need to skip from time to time, (and I've had to do so myself once or twice). Neither of you have het played a turn in this SG.

My primary responsiblity is to the people who are playing the game and by not playing your turns and holding the game up you are both spoiling it for the rest of the team.

If either of you skip again I will have to drop you from the game.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.

 

[Teknoice]

Pre fight checks:


Kuroda on the right
Tokugawa on the left

everyone offering Shamanism for 9 gpt and 90 gold..
Shamanism discovered in 20 turns.

I hold off the deal.

Nagaoya is in threat of revolting but settler is next turn so
no worries.

Yokkachi needs another irrgated square, growth in 8.

4 workers.. need more.

ok let's go!

IBT: AI continues to explore
Domestic Advisor says our people want an FP..

1 - 1225 BC
Nagoya builds settler -> settler
Move new settler to expand above Koromo
Move E warrior back to Ise
Continue to use 3 S warriors to scout

2 - 1200 BC
not much moving warriors around

3 - 1175 BC
Ogaki builds barracks -> worker
Yokkachi builds warrior -> barracks
Move worker to build road on Wines near Ise

4 - 1150 BC
Azuchi builds Settler -> Flagged Footman (Azuchi is at 2 po I want
the city to grow)
Ise builds worker -> barracks
Move new Ise worker to build road to cattle
Move worker between Ogaki and Azuchi down south to build road to
Suzuka
Move new Azuchi settler to expand above Ise
Move worker to continue to build road toward Koromo
Southern warrior scout finds barbarian camp (eager to take it out)

5 - 1125 BC
Nagoya builds Settler -> Settler
Koromo builds warrior -> worker
Suzuka builds warrior -> barracks

Kuroda is building Oracle
Move new Nagoya Settler to settle below Koromo
Warrior takes out barb camp 25 gold

6 - 1100 BC
Ogaki builds Worker -> Flagged Footman
Move new worker to irrigate plains near Ogaki
Move worker to mine grassland near Azuchi

7 - 1075 BC
worker mines wines near Ise
worker irrigates near ogaki
worker mines near Azuchi
New City: Moriyama-ku -> builds barracks (settler escorted by
southern scout warrior)

8 - 1050 BC
IBT: Takeda offers contact with Chosogabe for 60 gold, I accept.
Azuchi builds Flagged Footman -> Settler
Chosogabe are building the Oracle
Worker irrigates near Suzuka
Found new city: Kita-Ku -> warrior

9 - 1025 BC
Nagoya builds settler -> settler
Move new Nagoya settler to settle below Handa
worker builds to final road tile between Nagoya and Koromo

10 - 1000 BC
Koromo builds worker -> temple
Tokugawan completes Oracle
Mori is building the Pyramids
Kuroda is building the Pyramids
Takeda is building Colossus
Move new Koromo worker to Horse tile
New city found: Kasugai -> Temple (I did this cause we are close to
the Tokugawa border)
Moving souther scout warriors back home, there isn't much else to
explore.


End game notes:
Lux is at 0, Science is at 10%. We have all the lux resources
in the areaso as long as our cities don't goto 6 (I think) we don't have to
raise the bar.

We are getting bigger, we can continue to expand south or build up.
Shamanism in 10 turns

OUR SCORE: 242


Here is our civ:

The save:
click me

 

[mad-bax]

Sir Bugsy - you are up

 

[AlanH]

Sound turns, Technoice.

I notice the cities are still matching my dot map - I hope somone has checked that it's reasonable .

I'm still not sure about building footmen. I prefer not to let the ai near my cities, so I try to build offence, not defence, in the early game, and in this game that means warriors for upgrade to Kensai Oda when we hook the iron. We can train two warriors for every footman, and they work just as well if you need MPs.

We need to think about the FP. We can either build it in one of our core cities ready to rebuild the palace when we get a leader, or we can build it far enough away from Azuchi to form a second core. I tend to favour the first option, but it does rely on the luck of the leader RNG. Ise is a candidate for the second option. It has good terrain, and as long as we don't build any more cities closer than 7 from Azuchi it will remain at relatively low corruption. What do you guys prefer?

@Gengis: I apologise if my comment seemed over the top, but we are not talking about the odd day. We started 13 days ago, and 10 of those days have been waiting time during which we heard nothing from you or CG. I really don't mind if you decide to skip, but just tell us rather than leave us to wonder .... please? In return I promise I'll try to lay off the pills

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I've got it. It is presently 11:37 AM Pacific time. I will try to play and post within the next 36 hours.

 

[Teknoice]

I've only built on flagged footman in the capitol.

@Sir Bugsy: you can change that flagged footman that is being built to a warrior, it'll be completed in one turn with no wasted shields so *do it before you hit enter*

 

[smackster]

Good turn Teknoice, and good score advancement. I see 11 cities at QSC 1000BC, which is a good start. Can't say much more as my wife is hassling me to go out and buy some food