GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
So long as it's not the Cowboy Diplomacy as seen in the Bush Administration.
Mccain takes lead over Obama
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Someone not on ambien.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
I guess that means the Kennedy clan is out.
FriendlyFire
Codex WMDicanious
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Uhm...nope. For example, pre-surge this http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,407424,00.html would have not even been a remote consideration. However, violence has indeed fallen so low in Iraq that it is indeed time for even the Republicans to start dicussing this.
Now, you can deny this all you want, but its merely going to make you look very, very foolish.
Consider: http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-07-28-Petraeus_N.htm
Merkinball
Deity
Barack Obama. The great uniter. Cannot unite us over John "Where Am I?" McCain.
A refusal to do negative campaigning tends to do that.
I am against Obama.
The problem with the US government is it's too damn big. So why would I want someone that wants to start a program (Universal Healthcare) that is going to bring in Trillions to an already bloated and wasteful government?
Lets also not forget he has aligned himself with a racist pastor for the past twenty years.
The problem with the US government is it's too damn big. So why would I want someone that wants to start a program (Universal Healthcare) that is going to bring in Trillions to an already bloated and wasteful government?
Lets also not forget he has aligned himself with a racist pastor for the past twenty years.
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
I lost faith in the election as soon as both candidates made it very blatantly obvious that they were in it to win and not do whats actually best for the country.
Merkinball
Deity
Give it time.
Just give it time.
But anyhow. This really confuses me. Because wasn't America sick of politics as usual? Aren't we after a fresh face and fresh approach to politics? Weren't we told for months that America was shedding the politics of divisiveness for the politics of "hope and change." Whatever "hope and change" really meant? It would seem to me, at least as to how this election cycle has been peddled from the start, that McCain's ad campaigns should have fallen flat on their face.
I dunno. The only thing that I know is that they have given McCain some pretty strong meds the past couple weeks because he's just owning the . .. .. .. . out of Obama at every turn lately.
Obama is looking really weak. Really inexperienced. Really out of touch. Really elitist. Really hypocritical. Like a real flip flopper. Really dull and listless. And well...just not good in any regard.
You got huge issues with oil prices. A huge issue going on in the Caucuses. Hey, I got an idea. Let's show our leadership abilities by taking a vacation to Hawaii.
toda
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Wait till the Poles see this.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Apparently you havent been listening to Obama. How quickly you forgot how Obama mischaracterized McCains 100 years comment over and over...
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
If it has to be one of them, give me McCain. At least he MIGHT balance off a democratic-dominated Congress. At very least, he won't be the rubber stamp that Obama would be. Still, I don't think I can break my vow not to vote for either major party.
Ecofarm
Deity
^^ McKinney ruined any possibility of that for me, and I'm sick of Nader's ego.
Mercenary82
King
I was going to stay home or vote 3rd party like many conservatives are/were going to do, but he reassured the conservative base at the Saddleback Presidential Forum with Rick Warren. Now as long as he picks a Pro-life VP, he wont have a problem building on this lead. Obama also showed his true extreme far-left views on abortion and other social issues at that forum, further uniting us if just to stop him.
Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
I'd actually prefer someone who has a strong stance than a Universal appeaser whose policy is to give other nations whatever they want to make them happy.
Hopefully this causes Obama to shuck his "windfall profits tax" idea and a bit more baggage. If he wants to gain ground on the economy front, he should point out that his science/tech policy is seen as superior by quite a few watchers of that field.
As well, maybe McCain will get some more TV time.
As well, maybe McCain will get some more TV time.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Just FYI. Zogby is one of the most unreliable pollsters
Check out fivethirtyeight.com for good electoral analysis
Check out fivethirtyeight.com for good electoral analysis
It's one poll. Posting this one is like posting the outliers that showed Obama up by 14 or whatever.
Obama's lead is definitely slipping, but I think that's because the character attacks are sticking. For all Americans complain about negative campaigning, it works. It's sort of like the prisoner's dilemma: if both candidates don't do attack stuff, everybody benefits, but the minute one does and the other doesn't, it starts to tip the scales. McCain -- with the aid of Rove's team -- threw down the gauntlet; I'd like to see Obama start hitting him back. If the idiot media are going to run countless "Is McCain going negative?" stories that just happen to repeatedly show the negative attacks on the screen while pundits discus them (well played, McCain campaign), Obama'd might as well get some mileage out of it.
I've also heard that Obama wants to rely more on his ground game, and that turnout is going to be the key. He's spending vastly more money on organization than McCain. We'll see how well that works.
Cleo
Obama's lead is definitely slipping, but I think that's because the character attacks are sticking. For all Americans complain about negative campaigning, it works. It's sort of like the prisoner's dilemma: if both candidates don't do attack stuff, everybody benefits, but the minute one does and the other doesn't, it starts to tip the scales. McCain -- with the aid of Rove's team -- threw down the gauntlet; I'd like to see Obama start hitting him back. If the idiot media are going to run countless "Is McCain going negative?" stories that just happen to repeatedly show the negative attacks on the screen while pundits discus them (well played, McCain campaign), Obama'd might as well get some mileage out of it.
I've also heard that Obama wants to rely more on his ground game, and that turnout is going to be the key. He's spending vastly more money on organization than McCain. We'll see how well that works.
Cleo
