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[UNIT] Mighty Ships Et Al

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Unit Graphics' started by MightyToad, Mar 6, 2020.

  1. MightyToad

    MightyToad Sith Lord

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    That dude looks cool. Yes, I intend to make a mesoamerican galleass as soon as these sea people are in the rear view. I don't know if it will be an entire Renaissance line up yet. I think the grenade slinger idea for Matsudas japanese unit would be better for a grenadier.
    That is really the extent of the thought I put into it so far.:think:
     
  2. Sword_Of_Geddon

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    They had guns at one point that fired grenades. Napoleonic times I think. Ancestor of Grenade Launcher. Are you talking about Philistines/Sea People with guns? That is madness.....the horror

    Galleas looking forward to. Frigate I imagine something like your african ship.

    Found out about the Putun, a seafaring, trading civilization that were related to the Mayans, said to be direct descendants of the Olmecs, and had an extensive trade network all the way up to Canada. They had cities up the Mexican coast. They traded with the Taino in the Caribbean, Mississippian culture, spreading knowledge and ideas.

    This was a ship they had:



    Make a good UU perhaps if one wanted to make a Putun Civilization.

    Also I made this:

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    New Sails, and I redid the hull with a wood texture from another ship. What do you think?
     

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  3. MightyToad

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    No, not sea people. I'm talking about a mesoamerican grenadier. One that uses peltast animations like Matsudas Japanese grenade slinger. Sea people with grenades is just madness. :eek:

    I like the sail texture. The wood needs more work.
     
  4. Sword_Of_Geddon

    Sword_Of_Geddon Mysterious Jungle Warrior

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    I could do more with the EU4 Early Frigate I think, with the quetzal head. Also, I could retexture a Eu4 Ship of the Line. I have something alittle different with that in mind. Up to you.

    The Putun sailing canoe looks like the Haida Trireme/Sailing Galley you made. I could probably make it by retexturing...hmmm
     
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    Putun Galley, used mostly for trading goods across the Caribbean and coasts of Eastern Mexico to the Southern parts of coastal north america. Based off your Haida Galley. I took the textures from your Meso Trireme.

    Fyi: The Putun with their seaworthy boats, emblazoned with serpent heads, traveled long distances in search of more primitive peoples, who could be enslaved.

    Your what-if ships, are abit less what if Toad :)
     
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  6. MightyToad

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    Just want to point out the Haida galley is Matsudas baby. Not mine. ;)
    What-If ships are the most difficult. I did not enjoy making the mesotrireme and caravel.
    You really need to be an artist to design stuff like that.
     
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    Oh my mistake OO. Credit to Matsuda for that then. I've also worked on the War Galleon abit more. I want the hull to have more decorations like your Trireme. I'm thinking a pattern on the side, something simple.

    As for other meso ships I was thinking you would use the Trireme as a base, and change the hull when needed, cannons for the Galleas, and a Frigate type hull but with the Trireme's decorations(temple in back etc). As I read yesterday, the Putun(east coast offshoot of the Maya and descendants of the Olmecs as well) had sailing canoes with serpent heads. They used those for war and the ship I linked a screenshot of for trading. They apparently founded colonies in Florida, the Caribbean and Georgia. Putun kind of remind me of the Haida meets the Phoenicians with traditional Mayan thrown into the mix.
     
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    The Sea Peoples have come to invade to show they are a bunch of uncultured Philistines!
     
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    That putun boat looks like a scaled down mycenaean galley. I wanted to do that for the sea people, but just converted the civ 5 trireme.
     
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    Yeah its convergent development. Putin Sailing Canoes looked like that(but with one sail per the picture). They also had HUGE standard canoes, 60 feet long, as well as serpent headed sailing warships, used for raiding(Which they then would trade to others). Sort of a cross between Viking raiding and Phoenician trading.

    Civ5 Trireme a good fit. The ship is smaller than the Civ4 Trireme, so it is faster, lethal, but also capable of carrying a deadly ground of raiders. A good choice.
     
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    Yeaaaasss, this is yet another one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen! Of course I might be a little buzzed biased ;) Thank you MightyToad for making our “Philistine / Sea Peoples” dreams come true :worship:
     
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    I will be releasing the Putun leaderhead, then I get to work on the Philistine leader. Trying to think whom to base him on.
     
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    Now imagine doing that for a universe with established lore and having to figure out which civ would use cannons at which point in the game vs magic effects and which magic effects. One simply does not appreciate the gravity of this stuff until one is too deep in to quit.
     
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    That is how art is done though. Often with nothing to build on you have to imagine things yourself. Its a good exercise.
     
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    Team color. There is another (original) version of the texture that is blue. You could use that one if you prefer.
    I never gotten into the magic, trolls, elves thing. I guess my suspension of disbelief ends at magic.
    Of course the force and Jedi aren't real either. :scan:
     
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    I think it's okay... As long as they are not Babylonian
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    Force? What force?
     
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    Touche. The Q episodes are my favorite. De Lancie is such a great actor.
    If you have starships, turbo lasers, and explosions who cares.
     
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