MjMNES IV - A Fresh Start
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erez87
Lord of Random
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He wouldn't get angry if you join as something new
MjM
Deity
North America is kinda too far, but I guess something small in Japan could work. Or anywhere in the gray like you already said.
MjM
Deity
I'll post you on the map, with stats, and such next update. Just PM me a description of your culture and general descriptions of your nation (like those found previously in the thread), and try to keep it realistic to this time period in Japan. If you need help, PM me.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
To the Daragi Kingdom
From Retokimas
Hey! I just assumed that a nation as great as you would have been known to my Anatolian friends, you know? Besides, we would just take some of their merchants with us to your border if you let us. Then they would trade with you while being guided by any merchants who happened to be along the way. If it's not allowed, we won't infringe on your right to close your borders; we'll let them trade at our markets those southern goods and we can get all the richer for it.
das
Regeneration In Process
The Sayings.
1. It is said that when the old gods made the world, they had to work in the dark, and so made a fine mess of things, humans, animals, trees and plants all swirling in the waters. Then one of them created light, and in so doing destroyed peace and concord, as the gods saw what they have made, and passed the blame to one another, and sought to take things from each other. Now, eventually order was brought into the world, and all the things that became visible have been divided between gods and men, and without light this new partition and the reign of law would never have been possible; but it may never have been necessary either. Tools of the light may have their uses in law and war and government, as light is not going to disappear anywhere soon, but true bliss is to be found only in sacred darkness. And it is said that for this reason light is seldom a welcome guest in temples where the gods sit in attendance, or in tombs, where our ancestors rest from their toil.
2. It is said that the lighted world outside is only such a dangerous thing when there is no truth in it, and so the primal conflict among gods was ended when one among their number invented truth. Others did not believe him when he spoke to them about it, so then he made Murdatta, the Stone of Law, and thus set the truth in stone. This was the first land to be freed from chaos, where humans and animals and trees and plants were all put in their rightful places, and the other gods all wondered at it, and came to realise that this was much better. So the same law has prevailed throughout the world; and as for the god who invented the truth, he was then made the king of gods, though he was not always the first among them. And it is said that this gods name was Dahunamsunki, King of Lands (though different things are sometimes said in other cities).
3. It is said that as the King of Lands ruled gods and humans alike, he split the world between them, giving different things to different gods, and different things to different humans, and in so doing has brought law and peace into the lighted world. In this wise, the gods were content, for they did not have need to reproduce, and the whole world was made just big enough for all of them. But the humans were mortal, and spawned more of their number, and spread across the earth; they began to quarrel over possessions and became too numerous and too unruly for the King of Lands to keep up. Therefore the King of Lands spawned children of his own two sons and they were the first of the young gods and the first of the demons. The older son we call Napatta and the younger son we call Damaatta, for the humans did not stop to grow more numerous, and so the first spawned the other gods and the second spawned the demons. Now, as the humans kept on breeding, they inevitably sunk into lawlessness and vice, and so Napatta had decided to destroy all but the most virtuous, whom he told that their refuge was the Stone of Law; and the cries of the less virtuous he heeded not; but some of them were heeded by Damaatta, for he was jealous of his older brothers rule over humanity, and they were told to hide in low and distant places while the seas and winds ravaged the lighted world outside of Murdatta. When Napatta found out about this after the punishment has subsided, he quarreled with Damaatta, and his children quarreled with Damaattas children; but in the end the King of Lands stepped in and split up all humans between Napatta and Damaatta. And it is said that ever since then, lawless foreigners and criminals often worship demons, who are sometimes inclined to listen out of spite and envy; while lawful Danushti worship the young gods, who heed sincere and properly-made pleas out of pride and duty.
4. It is said that Dahunamel proved its right to rule three times. First, it was recognised by the King of Lands as his principal place of audience among the humans, and so made it into a large and rich and proper city, with a mighty temple, to which all other lawful Danushti flocked to offer sacrifices and tribute. But then the other cities started claiming that they were the chosen city of the King of Lands, and built their own houses and streets and walls and temples, and the Danushti had become confused, and every city said it was the ruling city, causing many quarrels. Second, the Priest-King Ulhimarri, who had later turned out to be one of the young gods although born among humans, invented war and armies, and conquered all the other cities to make clear that Dahunamel was the ruling city, and make the others travel there to bring sacrifices and tributes; and as the other cities did not know how to fight back, they were amazed and overawed, and had accepted this. But later they, too, learned the ways of wars and armies, and rose up against Dahunamel, and made themselves the ruling cities once again, and there were many bloody quarrels in Murdatta after that. Third, the Priest-King Amudatti (who, it is said, was just a clever human), defeated all the other cities and brought to them new laws and customs, appointed garrisons and overseers, and never removed them. And since Dahunamel was now clearly to all other cities what all other cities were not to each other or to Dahunamel, not having their garrisons and overseers there, Dahunamel was recognised as the ruling city. And it is said that all lawful Dashunti who wish to be considered glorious travel to Dahunamel to glorify themselves, and also offer sacrifices and tribute.
5. It is said that Ghasem, a man from the south and of foreign blood, had nevertheless impressed both gods and men with his knowledge of the stars that show us the great darkness, and of the numbers that show us the truth of law. So awed by both his knowledge and humility were they that Ghasem had become the Priest-King of Dahunamel, and the supreme ruler of Murdatta. But while Ghasem is wise and pure of heart and does not worship demons, his relatives and friends who followed him to power in Dahunamel retain strange foreign customs and are curious about lands beyond the Stone, with which they often trade. And it is said that this is a sign of changing times
1. It is said that when the old gods made the world, they had to work in the dark, and so made a fine mess of things, humans, animals, trees and plants all swirling in the waters. Then one of them created light, and in so doing destroyed peace and concord, as the gods saw what they have made, and passed the blame to one another, and sought to take things from each other. Now, eventually order was brought into the world, and all the things that became visible have been divided between gods and men, and without light this new partition and the reign of law would never have been possible; but it may never have been necessary either. Tools of the light may have their uses in law and war and government, as light is not going to disappear anywhere soon, but true bliss is to be found only in sacred darkness. And it is said that for this reason light is seldom a welcome guest in temples where the gods sit in attendance, or in tombs, where our ancestors rest from their toil.
2. It is said that the lighted world outside is only such a dangerous thing when there is no truth in it, and so the primal conflict among gods was ended when one among their number invented truth. Others did not believe him when he spoke to them about it, so then he made Murdatta, the Stone of Law, and thus set the truth in stone. This was the first land to be freed from chaos, where humans and animals and trees and plants were all put in their rightful places, and the other gods all wondered at it, and came to realise that this was much better. So the same law has prevailed throughout the world; and as for the god who invented the truth, he was then made the king of gods, though he was not always the first among them. And it is said that this gods name was Dahunamsunki, King of Lands (though different things are sometimes said in other cities).
3. It is said that as the King of Lands ruled gods and humans alike, he split the world between them, giving different things to different gods, and different things to different humans, and in so doing has brought law and peace into the lighted world. In this wise, the gods were content, for they did not have need to reproduce, and the whole world was made just big enough for all of them. But the humans were mortal, and spawned more of their number, and spread across the earth; they began to quarrel over possessions and became too numerous and too unruly for the King of Lands to keep up. Therefore the King of Lands spawned children of his own two sons and they were the first of the young gods and the first of the demons. The older son we call Napatta and the younger son we call Damaatta, for the humans did not stop to grow more numerous, and so the first spawned the other gods and the second spawned the demons. Now, as the humans kept on breeding, they inevitably sunk into lawlessness and vice, and so Napatta had decided to destroy all but the most virtuous, whom he told that their refuge was the Stone of Law; and the cries of the less virtuous he heeded not; but some of them were heeded by Damaatta, for he was jealous of his older brothers rule over humanity, and they were told to hide in low and distant places while the seas and winds ravaged the lighted world outside of Murdatta. When Napatta found out about this after the punishment has subsided, he quarreled with Damaatta, and his children quarreled with Damaattas children; but in the end the King of Lands stepped in and split up all humans between Napatta and Damaatta. And it is said that ever since then, lawless foreigners and criminals often worship demons, who are sometimes inclined to listen out of spite and envy; while lawful Danushti worship the young gods, who heed sincere and properly-made pleas out of pride and duty.
4. It is said that Dahunamel proved its right to rule three times. First, it was recognised by the King of Lands as his principal place of audience among the humans, and so made it into a large and rich and proper city, with a mighty temple, to which all other lawful Danushti flocked to offer sacrifices and tribute. But then the other cities started claiming that they were the chosen city of the King of Lands, and built their own houses and streets and walls and temples, and the Danushti had become confused, and every city said it was the ruling city, causing many quarrels. Second, the Priest-King Ulhimarri, who had later turned out to be one of the young gods although born among humans, invented war and armies, and conquered all the other cities to make clear that Dahunamel was the ruling city, and make the others travel there to bring sacrifices and tributes; and as the other cities did not know how to fight back, they were amazed and overawed, and had accepted this. But later they, too, learned the ways of wars and armies, and rose up against Dahunamel, and made themselves the ruling cities once again, and there were many bloody quarrels in Murdatta after that. Third, the Priest-King Amudatti (who, it is said, was just a clever human), defeated all the other cities and brought to them new laws and customs, appointed garrisons and overseers, and never removed them. And since Dahunamel was now clearly to all other cities what all other cities were not to each other or to Dahunamel, not having their garrisons and overseers there, Dahunamel was recognised as the ruling city. And it is said that all lawful Dashunti who wish to be considered glorious travel to Dahunamel to glorify themselves, and also offer sacrifices and tribute.
5. It is said that Ghasem, a man from the south and of foreign blood, had nevertheless impressed both gods and men with his knowledge of the stars that show us the great darkness, and of the numbers that show us the truth of law. So awed by both his knowledge and humility were they that Ghasem had become the Priest-King of Dahunamel, and the supreme ruler of Murdatta. But while Ghasem is wise and pure of heart and does not worship demons, his relatives and friends who followed him to power in Dahunamel retain strange foreign customs and are curious about lands beyond the Stone, with which they often trade. And it is said that this is a sign of changing times
MjM
Deity
Thank you to all those who've sent orders. 
Those who haven't, get them in.
Those who haven't, get them in.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
I'm sending orders in about 13-14 hours. Did I miscalculate what time it is where you live, MjM? Wasn't it due the 4th? I've arranged for orders to arrive the 4th...
MjM
Deity
Correct.
That's fine, I live in California, so Pacific Standard Time. You have approximately 24 hours before the final deadline (the deadline is at 11:59 PM PST).
MjM
Deity
(because he can't)
Rash'a Iguodala Diplo:
To Eros II, of Cyraenica
From Rash'a Qobe
That is agreeable between us.
To: “New Khambat”
For us, we will not trouble you with specious pretenses;
Either of how we are of right to our Empire when we overthrew your King;
Or are now attacking you because of the wrong you have done us-
And make a long speech which would not be believed.
In return we hope you will suffer your end in silence;
And cease to mewl about the inequity of justice and how you did no wrong;
Since you know as well as we do that Right, as the world goes,
Is only in question between Equals in power,
While the Strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
-Rash’a Qobe
Rash'a Iguodala Diplo:
To Eros II, of Cyraenica
From Rash'a Qobe
That is agreeable between us.
To: “New Khambat”
For us, we will not trouble you with specious pretenses;
Either of how we are of right to our Empire when we overthrew your King;
Or are now attacking you because of the wrong you have done us-
And make a long speech which would not be believed.
In return we hope you will suffer your end in silence;
And cease to mewl about the inequity of justice and how you did no wrong;
Since you know as well as we do that Right, as the world goes,
Is only in question between Equals in power,
While the Strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
-Rash’a Qobe
To Gojoseon
From Kaiguo
Let our two kingdoms formalize and officialize the trade between us. The Emperor of Kai sees mutual profit in this endeavor.
To Guanghu
From Kaiguo
Let our two kingdoms formalize and officialize the trade between us. The Emperor of Kai sees mutual profit in this endeavor.
From Kaiguo
Let our two kingdoms formalize and officialize the trade between us. The Emperor of Kai sees mutual profit in this endeavor.
To Guanghu
From Kaiguo
Let our two kingdoms formalize and officialize the trade between us. The Emperor of Kai sees mutual profit in this endeavor.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Mycin History 2000-500BC
For thousands of years the Mycin continued to thrive and grow, though not spectacularly. The ‘central villages’ continue to expand around Puerach, depending on each other for trade and resources rather than being self-sufficient entities. For all intents and purposes, this band of tribes is the Mycin civilization, as far as its cultural identity goes. It’s only here that structures and monuments that serve little purpose beyond art, religion or government are located.
The Purach region
Beyond the Puerach region Mycin civilization is an array of scattered villages, with population rarely greater than several hundred people. These settlements are for the most part self-sufficient, with most of the villages sustained through agriculture or the hunting of local wildlife. These villages, despite identifying themselves as Mycin, rarely have any real influence with the central council, nor is there much interaction beyond simple trading.
The major breakthrough in Mycin expansion came relatively recently, as settlers pushed west off the Altiplano plateau and reaching the Pacific coast. Across several decades a new group of settlements sprung up in the region, advancing the development of fishing techniques and primitive methods of seafaring. Basic canoes were developed, allowing limited access to the sea and saltwater fish.
An example of a Mycin fishing canoe.
The expansion to the west coast was as rapid as it was unexpected, and while the new settlements are still not as populated as the Puerach region, they represent a sizable independent force within Mycin. As long as the cultural and religious ties remain with the chief settlement, there’s little risk of a separation with the chief settlement.
Beyond Mycin, the world is a savage place. Foreign tribes, or even some former Mycin settlements, breaking off from their parent nation, harass the frontiers. Warfare is restricted to border engagements, mostly repulsing or avenging raids into Mycan lands. Here, the western territory and their disposition towards fishing has provided Mycin with well-trained spear-throwers, which provide short-range weaponry to compliment the axe-wielders.
Not all foreign nations are hostile, and relations with the northern Melalui tribes have been fairly neutral. The Melalui are regarded as a friendly people, though strangely obsessed with the construction of tall structures. Their guinea pigs are regarded as a status symbol for the more powerful members of Mycin society, and for this reason they are highly sought after. A specialised trade agreement, in which the creatures are brought into Mycin in return for llamas has proven mutually beneficial.
The Mycin llamas are among the most important animals being domesticated in the region, being utilised in a multitude of roles. Beyond providing food and wool, they contributed to successful migration of Mycin settlers by acting as beasts of burden. In some settlements with livestock, ‘guard llamas’ have been utilised to provide a defence against predators.
For thousands of years the Mycin continued to thrive and grow, though not spectacularly. The ‘central villages’ continue to expand around Puerach, depending on each other for trade and resources rather than being self-sufficient entities. For all intents and purposes, this band of tribes is the Mycin civilization, as far as its cultural identity goes. It’s only here that structures and monuments that serve little purpose beyond art, religion or government are located.
The Purach region
Beyond the Puerach region Mycin civilization is an array of scattered villages, with population rarely greater than several hundred people. These settlements are for the most part self-sufficient, with most of the villages sustained through agriculture or the hunting of local wildlife. These villages, despite identifying themselves as Mycin, rarely have any real influence with the central council, nor is there much interaction beyond simple trading.
The major breakthrough in Mycin expansion came relatively recently, as settlers pushed west off the Altiplano plateau and reaching the Pacific coast. Across several decades a new group of settlements sprung up in the region, advancing the development of fishing techniques and primitive methods of seafaring. Basic canoes were developed, allowing limited access to the sea and saltwater fish.
An example of a Mycin fishing canoe.
The expansion to the west coast was as rapid as it was unexpected, and while the new settlements are still not as populated as the Puerach region, they represent a sizable independent force within Mycin. As long as the cultural and religious ties remain with the chief settlement, there’s little risk of a separation with the chief settlement.
Beyond Mycin, the world is a savage place. Foreign tribes, or even some former Mycin settlements, breaking off from their parent nation, harass the frontiers. Warfare is restricted to border engagements, mostly repulsing or avenging raids into Mycan lands. Here, the western territory and their disposition towards fishing has provided Mycin with well-trained spear-throwers, which provide short-range weaponry to compliment the axe-wielders.
Not all foreign nations are hostile, and relations with the northern Melalui tribes have been fairly neutral. The Melalui are regarded as a friendly people, though strangely obsessed with the construction of tall structures. Their guinea pigs are regarded as a status symbol for the more powerful members of Mycin society, and for this reason they are highly sought after. A specialised trade agreement, in which the creatures are brought into Mycin in return for llamas has proven mutually beneficial.
The Mycin llamas are among the most important animals being domesticated in the region, being utilised in a multitude of roles. Beyond providing food and wool, they contributed to successful migration of Mycin settlers by acting as beasts of burden. In some settlements with livestock, ‘guard llamas’ have been utilised to provide a defence against predators.
Julius Gandi
The Foreign Disease
I am way too busy with my class to really participate. Please NPC me for now. I only have one more week after this and I can rejoin after that if you will have me.
MjM
Deity
Of course you can! Sorry you don't have time.
Nice stories everyone, don't believe I've said so yet. More orders are coming in, but there's still about 8 of you or so who need to send them in.
We are wary of your influence upon our people, but we will agree to limited trade between our peoples.
This is agreeable.
nutranurse
Unlikeliest of Slash Fics
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I'll be sending them in after I finish the post about how to apply in my NES!
The din of voices grew louder as Rohan rose from the ground, towering over his seated comrades. It slowly faded as he held his hands up, gesturing for a moment of silence to speak, but the warlord, young for his company at barely twenty, waited patiently for the chatter to cease before taking to the dirt floor, standing beside a crackling firepit, light flickering across his face.
"We all know that this must come to an end. The time of different tribes is coming to an end, and we must make our decision or risk fading into the past. You know as well as I do that when we must wage war on infidels and those who do not pay us the proper respect, it is simple only because they fall one by one before us. In the same way, we all are vulnerable. Kuchhadia! Do you remember how close to the edge you were, when the northern tribes came to steal what is yours? If I had come a week later, there would not have been rubble to your name."
A heavy-browed, balding man grunted from beside Rohan, his eyes gleaming as he considered what the speaker was proposing. Those who were revealed by the fire mirrored the older warrior, their hands scratching at their heads or rubbing at their chins, yet there wasn't a single word of protest. Seeing the reception for his words, Rohan nodded firmly, pacing slowly around the fire to be able to lock eyes with everyone in the room."I will not ask that anyone surrender their position. It would be insulting and absurd to propose something to any of you, men I have known for years, men of the true gods and men of the strong people of the Jharkhandi!" There were murmurs, but it seemed as if the compliments hit home: Rohan knew that most of these men were aging, aware that the day would soon come when they would be replaced, and the praise of young Mohandas Rohan was like water for a parched throat. "But we need order. We must be able to make decisions together, for the good of all, always for the good of all. We can achieve much more when we work together, honoured ones. Do you know of the villages where things are decided in council?"
Some of the voices mumbled in approval, as Rohan's intent was made clearer. Many of the gathered leaders had come from positions in such councils, before rising to claim the seat of their chieftain. One, an old friend of Rohan and a trusted ear, grasped the opportunity and called out "Mohandas, what you say is true. But we cannot decide everything in council! I have seen what happens when all are equal. In my old home, there was a hag who could gather many to her side, and frighten several away with her slippery words. We became as two councils, and slowly the council fell apart. We cannot make that same mistake."As Rohan watched with only partly faked amazement, Sorabu, his old confidant, rose to his feet and spoke with a deep, booming voice to the men, all of them now listening intently to the fierce-eyed chieftain. "We must have one man who can make decisions for us, when a council is not needed. We do not need to gather for every small thing. I propose, listen, my friends, I propose that Rohan be chosen as the one to lead in the mundane questions. When there are greater things to discuss, then we will meet as a council, but let us make him our 'leader' - as much a leader as an assembly such as ours can have!" With a disarming, jolly laugh, Sorabu continued "We have better things to do than oversee petty territorial disputes or count every cow in every field."
Neighbours of the Cloud-People
From Dainzu, Itetyeco gazes north. To his fellow Calendar-Keepers and adherents of the Rain-God, he is 12-Deer 10-Moon. To the commonfolk, he is the Priest of the Hills. In his mind, the world around him takes shape, from the most distant trading partners to the closest neighbours.
Southwest of Dainzu live the Cotton-People. Close friends and major rivals are they, being our nearest and closest trading partners. They are Be'ena'a, our people, sharing our language and culture, though their city is a temple to Coquihani, counterpart of Cocijo and Lord of Light.
Meanwhile, beyond the City of the Cotton-People, the Stone-People form an additional set of competitors for great Dainzu. Their tongue is different than ours, but familiar enough- perhaps they were given the gift of speech by a god closely-related to our own.
North and to the west, the Reed-People prove to be some of the best traders of fine artisanry and craftwork, allowing for a thriving trade to develop between our peoples. Despite our good relations, their language is very strange to our ears, and caravans from their cities are rare and celebrated events.
Southeast of us are the Obsidian-People. They control that most critical resource, Black Glass, but they lack the organization and numbers of their lowland brethren. We trade with them for this valuable stone, which use useful for creating all manners of bladed implements. While are often struck by the alien-ness of these people, we certainly see eye-to-eye in matters of exchange, and have been left mutually enriched by centuries of trade.
OOC: The Cotton-People, Stone-People, Reed-People and Obsidian-People are Monte Alban Zapotecs, Mixtecs, Southeastern Toltecs, and Highland Mayans respectively.
Also, orders sent.
From Dainzu, Itetyeco gazes north. To his fellow Calendar-Keepers and adherents of the Rain-God, he is 12-Deer 10-Moon. To the commonfolk, he is the Priest of the Hills. In his mind, the world around him takes shape, from the most distant trading partners to the closest neighbours.
Southwest of Dainzu live the Cotton-People. Close friends and major rivals are they, being our nearest and closest trading partners. They are Be'ena'a, our people, sharing our language and culture, though their city is a temple to Coquihani, counterpart of Cocijo and Lord of Light.
Meanwhile, beyond the City of the Cotton-People, the Stone-People form an additional set of competitors for great Dainzu. Their tongue is different than ours, but familiar enough- perhaps they were given the gift of speech by a god closely-related to our own.
North and to the west, the Reed-People prove to be some of the best traders of fine artisanry and craftwork, allowing for a thriving trade to develop between our peoples. Despite our good relations, their language is very strange to our ears, and caravans from their cities are rare and celebrated events.
Southeast of us are the Obsidian-People. They control that most critical resource, Black Glass, but they lack the organization and numbers of their lowland brethren. We trade with them for this valuable stone, which use useful for creating all manners of bladed implements. While are often struck by the alien-ness of these people, we certainly see eye-to-eye in matters of exchange, and have been left mutually enriched by centuries of trade.
OOC: The Cotton-People, Stone-People, Reed-People and Obsidian-People are Monte Alban Zapotecs, Mixtecs, Southeastern Toltecs, and Highland Mayans respectively.
Also, orders sent.
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